Councillors in East Yorkshire are to debate opposing fracking in the county.
Liberal Democrat Linda Johnson has submitted a motion to next week’s full meeting of East Riding of Yorkshire Council.
The motion says:
“That this Council:
“Agrees that fracking activities in the East Riding of Yorkshire are inappropriate for an area where the Council has declared a Climate Emergency and,
“In light of the Government’s statement that it will only frack where there is support, therefore wishes to ensure the Prime Minister, the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy and the Minister for State (Minister for Climate) are aware of the opposition to fracking in the East Riding and letters are sent to them to reinforce this.”
The council is Conservative-controlled, with a 20-seat majority. It declared a climate emergency in 2021 after two earlier failed attempts.
East Yorkshire has 13 oil and gas licences, covering about 70% of the area of the county.
The Conservative MP Graham Stuart, who represents, Beverley and Holderness, has previously opposed fracking. In March 2022, he wrote an article on his website headed “Please speak out against fracking”.
Meeting details
Next week’s meeting is at County Hall in Beverley on Wednesday 5 October, beginning at 2pm. It is open to the public but the council says people must book in advance by contacting the committee clerk because space is limited . The meeting can also be viewed on the council’s YouTube channel
Links
Committee clerk: elizabeth.pearce@eastriding.gov.uk or phone 01482 393212
DRILL OR DROP? 
Good 👍 bribes will not work on honest folk , not like Tory ministers.
Wonder where Dimlington and the Langeled pipeline fits in with their declared climate emergency?
Meeting at 2pm on a Wednesday!
Well, that should attract a lot of people who may be working two jobs to afford to heat and eat.
KELFF and FFL should encourage Councils in East Lancashire and Lancashire to do the same – see Model Motion posted below. We can stop Fracking this way as Firms need both environmental and planning permits to start fracking, as well as licences, Health and Safety Executive scrutiny and consent from the Business Department, according to the UK Onshore Oil and Gas (UKOOG) industry body:
LOCAL AUTHORITY MOTION OPOSSING FRACKING
The Prime Minister has indicated that the Government will resume Fracking subject to agreement by local communities. This is despite the Government British Geological Survey report which said that it remains impossible for scientists to predict when fracking might trigger earthquakes nor how severe those earthquakes might be. The Government promised that Fracking would remain barred “unless the science shows categorically that it can be done so safely”.
As this Council area is likely to have Fracking imposed upon it, we ask Councillors to debate and adopt this Motion:
“In the light of the reversal of Policy of Fracking, this Council opposes Fracking in its area for the following reasons:
• The majority of people in local communities are against Fracking – 64% nationally;
• The Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy Survey shows only 18% support Fracking while a record 85% back Renewables;
• Fracking cannot be done safely as earthquakes are likely to happen;
• The Geology of shale deposits makes it difficult to extract sufficient gas to make fracking financially viable – hundreds of wells would have to be drilled nationwide close to communities in order to produce enough gas;
• This would lead to the industrialisation of the countryside, damage to the local environment and green spaces;
• Any gas from Fracking would have to be sold at the world market price and so would not make such energy any cheaper for the UK consumer;
• The Fracking process causes Pollution and an increase in Climate Change;
• It emits Methane, as the operation involves flaring off excess gas from wells, which is 86 times more powerful than CO2 as a global warming gas over a 20-year period;
• Massive amounts of water, an average of between 1.5 million and 9.7 million gallons of water, are mixed with a cocktail of harmful chemicals and silicon sand to frack each well;
• Up to 50% of this polluted water would flow back to surface and have to be treated but never safe enough to drink;
• There is also be the real risk of contaminating aquifers and river courses from drilling wells. Precious water supplies would be diminished as the UK faces increasing periods of drought and water shortages;
• If Fracking goes ahead the health and well being of local residents will be adversely affected; MEDACT Reports, endorsed by the British Medical Association, conclude: “One can state categorically that fracking poses threats to human health”.
• In the light of this evidence, this Council refuse or reject planning permission to activate any Fracking Licences in their area.”
Whilst the East Riding will remain of primary importance in these, and all deliberations of the Council, let us hope that these are conducted against the backdrop of the health and well-being of all who inhabit the planet, threatened daily as they are by worsening climate conditions. By acting in concert, Councils can help mitigate the threat and avoid encouraging others to follow the supremely negative path of fracking. Can they in conscience act differently?
Strange. I thought that Councils had been given greater responsibility to collect money from their locality and use, rather than expect central government to push out finance from the centre.
Of course, if they wish to deliberately curtail opportunities to do so and central government believe that is not in the national interest, then pretty easy to revert to previous position. Such is progress?!
MARTIN
“” STOP PRESS “”
What are your thoughts on this ???????.
Liz Truss’s climate adviser urges investors to DITCH SHALE GAS ( 26th September 2022 )
https://www.ft.com/content/481b67e8-6f48-46f1-a6e7-b556e9d2ed90
MARTIN ,
Taken from the ” LINK ” below
Liz Truss’s climate adviser urges investors to DITCH SHALE GAS ( 26th September 2022 )
https://www.ft.com/content/481b67e8-6f48-46f1-a6e7-b556e9d2ed90
QUOTE ,
” Liz Truss’s new adviser on net zero emissions has warned investors to avoid fracking in the UK — saying the nascent industry would end up a “non-starter” — as he insisted the new prime minister would be resolute in her pursuit of Britain’s climate goals ”
” Truss last week met her promise during the Tory leadership campaign to life the three-year moratorium on fracking for shale gas, a move applauded by many rightwingers. ”
” But Skidmore warned investors it would be better to invest in renewable energy rather than “potentially investing in a [fracking] industry that will leave you with stranded assets. ”
” He said the “death blow” for the industry came last week when the founder of fracking company Cuadrilla said there was no chance of the industry taking off in the UK in the near term because of the geological challenges.”
Well, advisers advise, and decision makers make decisions. Those decision makers usually have no end of advisers and lobbyists and their job to sort the chaff from the corn. (That is, if they can find any corn as some other adviser/lobbyist has acquired his/her income from plonking it into fuel tanks and what is the price of bread now, being paid by the consumer and how many miles to the gallon are they achieving?)
Good job you only lobby Jack.
Stranded assets? OMG, that line trotted out at COP26 and who are stranded now? Oh yes, the UK taxpayers!
Of course, there could be potential investing into solar panels and householders end up not being able to sell their houses as they are no longer sole owners of their own roofs! Stranded. Or Cash from Ash and all those consumers in N.Ireland ended up stranded without effective representation and local governance as a result. Or EVs that run out of charge adrift from a charging point and the passengers end up stranded. I can see where the terminology may come from.
However, looking at oil, where the same comment has been made, those actually involved, like the guy from Aramco recently warned the issue with the assets is there are not enough to provide the world as exploration was curtailed during the pandemic. It is only the hiccups in the world recovery, particularly China, that is stopping that from being more evident to UK consumers. Oh yes, and US frackers! So, enjoy the current respite at the pumps, but don’t expect it to last long.
“Taking off…in the near term”. Well, that is correct, but the same applies to most other forms of energy provision. Not sure that nugget deserves a very large remuneration package. Does seem to be a little redolent of advice the Wright brothers may have received and rejected. Or, more recently the advice Sir Jim was given and rejected!
MARTIN YOU ARE WRONG
Just to 100% clarify the situation.
Under Boris Johnson, the governments Green Energy obligation for Energy Suppliers 2020
Whether you benefited from fully funded or part funded installation of solar panels.
The SOLAR PANELS are FULLY OWNED by the homeowner…..
Therefore no , I repeat NO difficulty when selling your home .
It’s a good job your buddy JACK is here to help you understand current UK policies MARTIN .
With such naivety on UK policies and lack of interest in the health and well-being of UK residents, it does raise the question…… ARE YOU a UK resident , living in the UK MARTIN ???????
Nope. I am correct Jack. Much stress and anxiety caused to many a householder UNTIL they were sorted. Also, during that pretty long period many a householder could not sell their house. Facts. The naivety is yours. If you were bothered, or had the means, you could have heard in the HoC repeated discussion about the subject over a long period of time
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MARTIN,
Although your wild Off-The-Cuff OPINIONS are always devoid of facts , evidence and are always WRONG.
Have no fear, your old buddy JACK, is willing to once again step in and help you understand the error of your ways , but please take in to consideration the laughter 🤣 content that you will give forum members when you are 0NCE again proved WRONG .
Here’s a little game for you to play , see if you can count how many times the word GRANT is used in the ” LINK ” below ..
Do you understand what the word ” GRANT ” means MARTIN ????? Just ask JACK of you don’t
https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/news/greater-manchester-residents-must-act-now-or-miss-out-on-10-000-grant-to-improve-energy-performance-of-homes/
GRANT MARTIN , look for that word
MARTIN ,
Did you count how many times the word free ” GRANT ” was used …. If your in ANY WAY unsure as to WHO owns the FREE SOLAR PANELS , there are many way in which to contact the GMCA to ask that question.
They will happily confirm that the HOMEOWNER owns the Solar Panels, therefore NO PROBLEM selling your home .
OH and MARTIN , SHHHHHH , we’ll keep this one to ourselves . Your WRONG AGAIN.
Here is the Cambridge Dictionary meaning for JACK-THE-LAD
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/jack-the-lad
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MARTIN , seriously ,
You need to take time to read , absurb and fully understand what you actually type on this forum page , before clicking the ” SEND ” button.
You do a lot of talking , but say nothing , back up nothing and add nothing.
What can’t you understand about this ????????
73 % are AGAINST Fracking in the UK
https://www.theengineer.co.uk/content/news/poll-fracking-in-the-uk-yes-or-no/
Here is a September 2022 , YouGov opinion Poll on Fracking.
Support for Fracking 28%
Opposition to Fracking 47%
https://www.nationalworld.com/news/politics/uk-fracking-public-support-opinion-polls-explained-government-lifts-ban-3852999
The majority of UK people DON’T want Fracking.
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Eco-extremists only have themselves to blame for fracking’s return
By ranting and raving about collective guilt, they alienated people who were keen to follow them… Never a truer statement!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/25/eco-extremists-have-blame-frackings-return/
While the UK start up research and development ‘shale gas industry’ falls in on itself,
Off the coast of Yorkshire,
The world’s largest offshore wind farm comes on line.
https://hornseaprojects.co.uk/hornsea-project-two
While Liz and Jacob get everything wrong about the energy security from UK fracking,
Duncan Clark, Head of Region UK at Ørsted, says: “The UK is truly a world leader in offshore wind and the completion of Hornsea 2 is a tremendous milestone for the offshore wind industry, not just in the UK but globally. Current global events highlight more than ever the importance of landmark renewable energy projects like Hornsea 2, helping the UK increase the security and resilience of our energy supply and drive down costs for consumers by reducing our dependence on expensive fossil fuels.
Increasing our renewable energy sources will result in using less of our own North sea gas and making our proven reserves last longer.
About time pro frackers who are worried about our lights going out did something positive and ask Liz and Jacob to restrict the export of our own home grown North sea gas.
Would that be the same Hornsea 2, driving down costs for consumers by reducing our dependence on expensive fossil fuels, that will not produce any reduction in costs until April next year and will not produce the full reduction in costs until April 2024 because of Orsted’s decision to delay the £68.55/MWh contract and take the same wholesale price as gas generators in the meantime?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/wind-farm-contract-delay-diverts-1bn-in-savings-from-consumers-px85d9nlm
Orsted does not know who bought its power. Experts say it is possible it was bought by big business consumers locking in cheap prices or by suppliers offering cheap fixed-price deals; it also may have been bought by traders or other energy companies that could now sell it on to consumers at much higher prices. Seems like mortgage lenders, looking to cash in, it you as a consumer believe that the wind will blow to provide you with cheap energy you sorely mistaken!
Wind and RENEWABLE POWER Owned by Big Business WILL NOT BRING CONSUMER PRICES DOWN!, (Where have i heard that before).
An Orsted spokesman said “it is true that power that has been sold forward for delivery on a particular day can be traded again up to the day of delivery”, but added that events that had driven up prices could not have been forecast.
Simon Evans, deputy editor of Carbon Brief, said: “A number of developers have used flexibility within their contracts, which is delaying the point where households start to see the benefits of their cheap renewable generation.”
Just in time to feel the benefits from UK Fracked Gas!!
Eli-G, in light of the constant claims that renewables are now nine times cheaper than gas fired generators, I believe that it’s important that consumers are made aware of the actual events occurring in our electricity market.
Since the start of the energy/price crisis, there’s been no increase in CfD capacity to the register, even though several very large renewable projects have come online. Operators are instead choosing to take advantage of higher contract and/or spot wholesale prices.
Under CfD rules, operators are allowed to delay taking up their agreed CfD contract for up to three years after the project is commissioned. They are also allowed to cancel their agreed CfD at any point following the payment of the set cancellation fee.
The CfD system is relatively new, it was introduced during 2017 and so far four contract rounds have been completed.
The CfD scheme replaced the Renewable Obligation system which closed to new capacity in 2017 but will remain funded for existing contracts until 2037.
The Renewable Obligation still applies to most of our renewable electricity generation capacity. It includes roughly 95% of our onshore wind capacity, over 65% of our offshore wind capacity and over 50% of our solar capacity.
Under the system, operators rely on long term contract prices from energy supply companies and/or wholesale spot prices. Plus additional revenue from set payments of energy certificates issued for each MWh of electricity they sell.
For offshore wind the payment is set at £103.95/MWh, onshore wind £55/MWh, solar £78.65/MWh and biomass £63.80/MWh.
Until these systems are reviewed and changed, consumers will continue to receive a raw deal, prices will remain high and companies will continue to generate excessive profits.
If renewable generated electricity is truly nine times cheaper than gas generated electricity. The claim could be made that the good guys running the renewable energy industries, are making nine times more profit than the evil fossil fuel capitalists.
Liz and Jacob get everything wrong jp?,
Hornsea 2
Powering over 1.4 million homes with green electricity, (What happens when the wind doesn’t blow, and there are more than 1.4 million homes?, good try but not convinced, mate)