A new oil site got the go-ahead from Lincolnshire councillors this morning, despite local opposition.
Source: council livestream
The site, proposed by IGas near the small village of Glentworth, was granted planning permission to operate for up to 21 years.
Seven members of the county council’s planning committee voted in favour, with two abstentions and no opposition.
The scheme, for one vertical appraisal well and up to seven production wells, has been opposed by the parish council, local county councillor and villagers.
The chairman of Glentworth Parish Council, John Latham, told the meeting in Lincoln:
“There is no support whatsoever for this development in the village.”
The construction and drilling phases of the scheme, lasting nearly five years, are expected to generate up to 100 lorry movements day, or an average of one every 6 and a half minutes.
Cllr Latham described the impact on the village of the 24-hour-a-day drilling phases:
“This is nothing less than industrialisation of the countryside with no direct benefit to the village or its residents. Once it is lost it is gone forever and we urge you to refuse [the application].”
He said Kexby Road, on the proposed lorry route, was a “quiet country residential road”. It was not a heavily trafficked street that experienced heavy goods vehicles on a regular basis or an industrial area, he said.
“We are concerned about the noise, air pollution, vibration and safety. The mental health impact of these 100 lorry movements a day on the residents living on Kexby Road cannot be lightly dismissed.”
The increased traffic would have an impact on pedestrians, dog walkers, horse riders and cyclists, he said. The road also had school bus pick-up points.
Mr Latham said the IGas proposal contravened two policies in the National Planning Policy Framework: paragraph 152 on supporting the transition to a low carbon future and paragraph 185 on protecting tranquil areas.
The meeting heard that 62 people had objected to the proposal. But it was supported by county council planners.
The council’s highways department had been concerned about the proposed lorry route. But the meeting heard that IGas had agreed to a legal agreement requiring four new passing places, widening an existing passing place and improvements to the road surface.
Tony Bryan, development director for IGas, told the meeting the company had a “long and successful history” of oil extraction in Lincolnshire. It had operated an existing site near Glentworth, since 2011.
There was a continued role for fossil fuels during the transition to a low carbon economy, Mr Bryan said. The proposal was consistent with national policy and helped to avoid the need for imports, he said.
IGas has previously said the new site could produce up to 2,500 barrels of fluid a day, comprising oil and water. But there are no estimates of the individual amounts of oil and water.
Mr Bryan told the meeting there had been no objections from statutory consultees and the environmental impacts were “acceptable”. He said a traffic management plan would aim to avoid lorry movements at school drop-off and pick-up times.
Discussion
The planning committee took 34 minutes to approve the proposal.
Cllr Noi Sear said she was concerned about lorry access to the site. The head of planning, Neil McBride, said the proposed improvements should ensure the local highway network was “of sufficient standard to absorb those traffic volumes”.
Cllr Thomas Ashton said there were no clear planning grounds to refuse the application.
Lincolnshire had been “familiar with this type of oil development for a very long time”, he said. The current IGas Glentworth site was “happily sitting there pumping away for very little impact on the landscape and very little noise”, he said.
Cllr Ashton said he was satisfied that, with tree planting and landscaping, the new proposal would “sit as harmlessly on the landscape as the one that is already nearby”.
He said he was “much more supportive, if we are going to have oil, … that it comes from Lincolnshire and not on a ship from the far side of the world”.
Cllr Tom Smith said site construction would be “very distressing and very difficult to live with” for local residents. But he said the impact was “not of the level” that would constitute planning grounds for refusing the application.
Cllr Paula Ashleigh-Morris said:
“Shipping oil from who knows where is massively more environmentally damaging than a small amount locally. Having been in the motor trade for aeons, engines need oil. … And we have to have it from somewhere.”
The committee chair, Ian Fleetwood, said the surrounding countryside meant that equipment on the site would be “visually not so intrusive” and noise “would not carry”.
Reaction
Chris Hopkinson, IGas interim executive chairman, said:
“I am pleased that the Committee has made this positive determination following the recommendation by the Planning Officer.”
“It is important to recognise the continuing role of fossil fuels in providing for UK energy needs during the transition to a low carbon economy and developing indigenous resources is an important part of the UK’s future energy security.
“This will help us deliver on our strategy of pursuing lower risk, infill opportunities, bolstering our oil production whilst we invest in growing our market leading geothermal business.”
Updated with IGas reaction
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DRILL OR DROP? 
Très sensible ce matin? Où ai-je dit que je répondais à cela quelque part? Veuillez fournir la preuve que j’ai répondu à votre commentaire quelque part?
Very touchy this morning? Where did I say I was responding to that anywhere at all? Please provide proof that I responded to your comment anywhere?
Il y a donc encore plus de spéculations à faire par IGas près du petit village isolé de Glentworth, dans le Lincolnshire? En ce qui concerne les réponses inévitables, vous pouvez voir qu’en allemand, le mot schadenfreude est un amalgame des noms « schaden », signifiant dommage ou préjudice, et « freude », signifiant joie. Et donc schadenfreude signifie l’expression de la joie pour un mal ou un malheur subi par un autre. Une faute commune à ceux qui ne souhaitent pas grand-chose d’autre. Et toujours pas d’excuses aux habitants de Glentworth dans le Lincolnshire?
En Anglais – So there is to be yet more speculation to be made by IGas near the small remote isolated village of Glentworth, Lincolnshire?
As to the inevitable responses, you can see that in German, the word schadenfreude is a conflation of the nouns ‘schaden’, meaning damage or harm, and ‘freude’, meaning joy. And so schadenfreude means the expression of joy over some harm or misfortune suffered by another. A common fault amongst those who wish little else.
And still no apologies to the people of Glentworth in Lincolnshire?
There are far more important questions to ask, however.
Are AI Lawyers Coming for Us? What We Need to Know – *’ – https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/04/22/are-ai-lawyers-coming-for-us.aspx?ui=9119a978c2ba936b8e195cc7e1e6486875dbd3d4804f3338cc68bd5187bbccc5&sd=20200806&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art2HL&cid=20230422&cid=DM1386624&bid=1779614323 – ‘*
Réjouissez-vous, cela n’arrivera peut-être jamais.
Cheer up, it may never happen.
Referring to eschews69 [deliberate spelling, see text below], at April 22, 2023 at 6:44 pm on the previous page.
HaHa!
Dear eschews69 [deliberate spelling to illustrate the point again]
I regret to inform you that your failing object-oriented programming system (OOPS), is malfunctioning once again? It’s struggling with its orthoepy, which has visibly deteriorated into cacoepy. A common fault in inexpertly, poorly orthographically executed keystrokes.
To put it into more simplistic terms you perhaps may understand, that faulty, incorrect post on the previous page has not only misspelled my name, but perhaps more embarrassingly, it has misspelled the name of the village of Glentworth as ‘Glenworth’?
May I suggest you correct the computational misrepresentation by reading the post provided by Ruth Hayhurst on April 17, 2023 ‘Counsillors vote for new Lincolnshire oil site’ before posting on the subject in the future?
However, returning to the subject of the small and remote, isolated village of Glentworth in Lincolnshire. The terms small, rural and remote is the purpose of the speculative exercise as regards the residents?
It has long been the ‘practice’ of the oil and gas industry to target small, remote and isolated village communities. In order to insert their industrialisation of polluting oil and gas speculation and extracting the wealth. The practice of targeting small, rural and remote locations is specifically employed to avoid the uproar and protest if they were placed in a large urban setting.
Since their pollution and gas flares, their earthquakes and noise, light pollution and leaking infrastructure, causes the dire health and fertility degradation of hundreds of thousands of people due to dioxins from the gas flares and constant disruption from growling heavy goods vehicle diesel pollution, noise and vibration. That in a busy urban setting could be easily seen to be a result of the polluting industrial exploitation by the oil and gas installation. Whereas in a small remote rural village the risk to many thousands of people are avoided by deliberately sacrificing of the local residents of the small and remote isolated village of Glentworth in Lincolnshire.
As quoted from the report above –
‘Cllr Latham described the impact on the village of the 24-hour-a-day drilling phases:
“This is nothing less than industrialisation of the countryside with no direct benefit to the village or its residents. Once it is lost it is gone forever, and we urge you to refuse [the application].”
He said Kexby Road, on the proposed lorry route, was a “quiet country residential road”. It was not a heavily trafficked street that experienced heavy goods vehicles on a regular basis or an industrial area, he said.
“We are concerned about the noise, air pollution, vibration and safety. The mental health impact of these 100 lorry movements a day on the residents living on Kexby Road cannot be lightly dismissed.”
The increased traffic would have an impact on pedestrians, dog walkers, horse riders and cyclists, he said. The road also had school bus pick-up points.
Mr Latham said the IGas proposal contravened two policies in the National Planning Policy Framework: paragraph 152 on supporting the transition to a low carbon future and paragraph 185 on protecting tranquil areas.’
Further to my post above –
The strategy of targeting small remote rural, isolated village locations is well established in the oil and gas industry. Since the remote locations also isolate the industry from continuous protest and testing of the pollution that would result from a busy, highly populated urban setting. The result would be that the local MP, the council and the government would be drowned in organised protest every day until it was stopped. Whereas a small remote rural isolated village location would consider the rightful protest as a further intrusion into their erstwhile quiet calm and pleasant environment.
That is the well established psychology of exploiting a small remote rural isolated village location, as opposed to a major urban busy highly populated location where protest and demands to stop the polluting industry would lead to press and media coverage that could not be handled by IGas or any other polluting oil and gas industry targeted location.
I really suggest you repair your AI interface before replying, since malfunctions will be pointed out with the kindest and most helpful suggestions for what you could do with it and to remediate the apparent faults.
Does that help to clarify your misunderstanding and cacoepistic misrepresentation of the naming protocols and the small, remote and isolated village of Glentworth situation?
Aren’t Sundays wonderful? But not for the residents of the small, remote and isolated village of Glentworth you might say.
Perhaps the oil companies are choosing their drilling locations based on geology, geophysics, petrophysics and offset well data – where they have a reasonable chance of finding commercial quantities of oil and or gas?
To Paul Tresto’s April 23, 2023 at 10:28 am, post above –
Perhaps not at all. That excuse doesn’t compute since it contradicts eschews69 [deliberate spelling, see text] that the geology and location will equally apply to Gainsborough not that far away as can be seen on the Google Maps street view –
*’ – https://www.google.com/maps/place/Glentworth,+Gainsborough/@53.3838897,-0.5882697,16z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x4878581a8de8316d:0x3c2c23b8d3f69c35!8m2!3d53.3798635!4d-0.5801299!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqn502 – ‘* – Look for yourself, you can see Gainsborough in the distance and the tiny unpaved lane and the small peaceful roads in Glentworth, and ask yourself if you lived there, would like that destroyed by IGas growling polluting oil and gas polluting site and heavy goods vehicle traffic night? And day?
Google Maps street view, also shows the small quiet roads and tiny unpaved lanes which shows an unfortunate dog leg turn north of Northlands Road, that are chosen to be the target routes to the new site [you can also see the existing four nodding donkeys on the corner of Northlands Road just where it turns back eastwards around the small remote isolate village of Glentworth towards Coachroad Hill back to Middle Street.
However, urban Gainsborough, which has just as much of a chance as the same geology, as the IGas exploration speculation will reveal as the small remote isolated village of Glentworth.
Which explains that urban, highly populated Gainsborough is not strategically chosen as the target because there would be one enormous outcry from the urban environment that would create a media storm of protest, media storm and calls to the government and council to close it down.
The resulting media storm would soon halt the targetting of urban Gainsborough. Whereas the media would be less interested in a small remote rural isolated village such as Glentworth, and would save IGas from the very bad media, council and government storm of publicity and outrage than the low interest in the urban location of an IGas site in Gainsborough would create.
it’s just a matter of logistics to IGas, but it’s life and death to the residents of Glentworth.
I don’t see that there is, from those posts on the previous page, and here, the remotest concern in the lives and future health of the residents, from the inevitable pollution, be it, chemical, noise, light and health and future fertility, of the living people in the small rural remote isolated village of Glentworth in Lincolnshire?
Lots of very touchy excitement today? Apparently, some diacritic trigger or other has excited the AI’s into failing object-oriented programming system (OOPS), malfunction once again? It’s still struggling with its orthoepy into cacoepy overdrive?
Quant à l’inévitable réponse aletheiaphobe [peur de la vérité] qui l’accompagne, peut-être que cette citation de mon post précédent à la page précédente expliquera.
EnAglais
As for the inevitable accompanying aletheiaphobic [fear of truth] response, perhaps this quote from my previous post on the previous page will explain.
‘For examples of that you only need to do some research into past responses, where claims were made, but when research was done into the proffered ‘examples’ they turned out to be nothing of the sort? Entirely misrepresented compared to the facts, ‘in fact’.’
Comme je l’avais écrit précédemment, je suis plus qu’heureux de fournir de nombreux exemples pour illustrer les tentatives de déformer la vérité et les faits si on me le demandait dans des messages précédents, car mes défis à fournir des vérifications liées sourcées de toutes les affirmations faites se sont avérés évités et ignorés à chaque occasion. Suis-je surpris? Bien sûr que non.
En Anglais
As I had written previously, I’m more than happy to provide many examples to illustrate the attempts at misrepresenting the truth and the facts if asked from past posts, since my challenges to provide sourced linked verifications of any and all claims made, proved to be avoided and ignored at every occasion. Am I surprised? Of course not.
Touche une fois à ce petit poulet spéculatif déformé
YY Lee
You note …..
It has long been the ‘practice’ of the oil and gas industry to target small, remote and isolated village communities. In order to insert their industrialisation of polluting oil and gas speculation and extracting the wealth. The practice of targeting small, rural and remote locations is specifically employed to avoid the uproar and protest if they were placed in a large urban setting…….Really?
However, this is not true. Oil and gas can only be extracted from where it is. So there has never been a long practice of targeting remote and isolated villages. You just made that up on the spot. Have you any examples of large UK proven oil reserves under large urban areas, which remain untapped?
You say
Since their pollution and gas flares, their earthquakes and noise, light pollution and leaking infrastructure, causes the dire health and fertility degradation of hundreds of thousands of people due to dioxins from the gas flares and constant disruption from growling heavy goods vehicle diesel pollution, noise and vibration. …….really!
There is already an oil well at Glentworth, without the issues noted above – and earthquakes? Where did that come from?
The rest of the post looks strangely familiar. Mis spelling of posters names (which seems a tad childish but familiar), wild and inaccurate statements about the oil and gas industry, use of the terms – sacrifice / earthquakes and so on (Anti Oil and Gas Bingo Words) – getting hot under the collar about misspelling and a large dose of conspiracy theory. plus ça change (plus c’est la même chose)
Referring to eschews69 [deliberate spelling, see text below]
Haha! Beaucoup plus d’excitation très délicate un dimanche?
Je me demande pourquoi? Où est votre preuve de cette affirmation? Veuillez fournir des liens et des preuves que l’industrie pétrolière et gazière cible des villages ruraux isolés éloignés plutôt que des zones urbaines très peuplées, ce qui n’est pas le cas?
En Anglais
HaHa! Lots more very touchy excitement on a Sunday? I wonder why?
Where is your proof of that claim? Please provide links and proof that oil and gas industry targetting of remote isolated rural villages rather than busy heavily populated urban locations in not the case?
Perhaps it may be more educational to look at the facts, rather than unverified unproven opinion and speculation. I can point to loads of remote rural locations that the oil and gas industry has targetted in The United Kingdom, but I can’t find any that have targetted urban locations or even disused industrial areas in cities or highly populated locations that have been targetted by the oil and gas industry as suitable locations for their industrial pollution activities? Why is that? Perhaps you can show detailed linked and verified information where that has been the case in the UK? There is yet another challenge if you are willing? Time will tell. The facts will speak for themselves.
And at last, the often attempted ‘conspiracy theory’ nonsense is used? I wondered how long it would be until that nonsense was dragged out in a frantic attempt at dehumanising anyone who dares to disagrees with the oil and gas dogma, and attempts to discredit the facts and the truth with nonsense words rather than the facts or the truth? Sorry, but it doesn’t even remotely serve to escape the inevitable reluctance to avoid referring to the facts and the truth. And only goes to show, just how desperate the situation is. Comprendre?
Apparently, the same diacritic trigger or other has excited the AI’s causing the failing object-oriented programming system (OOPS), to malfunction once again? It’s obviously still struggling with its orthoepy, collapsing into cacoepy overdrive? And of course, malfunctioning AI has no sense of humour either. Looks familiar. Where has that been seen only too recently?
Used up that floppy disc yet?
YY
Remember to keep it short, not too much conspiracy stuff and focused on the issue. Some evidence to support the various wild statements would be good, but, again, keep it focused. So evidence of human sacrifice near Lincolnshire oil Wells or earthquakes caused by Lincolnshire oil extraction would be good, or a picture of existing light pollution at Glentworth maybe.
Je vous rends respectueusement votre propre cacoepy avec mes compliments pour votre prompt rétablissement des théories du complot. Continuez à cacoeping. Je n’ai pas tellement ri depuis des jours?
En Anglais
I respectfully return your own cacoepy to yourself with my compliments for your swift recovery from conspiracy theories [des théories du complot]. Keep on cacoeping on. I haven’t laughed so much in days?
Time for lunch, no conspiracy theories required to de-eulogise about there.
Hmm, drilling in urban areas? Like in Southampton, for geothermal? The same geothermal where in Cornwall it has been associated with fracking and seismic activity? The same geothermal that in Germany has been associated with severe subsidence? Yet, according to my sources, Southampton General Hospital still stands, has recently received loads of dosh for expansion of cancer treatment and the eye hospital, and the good folk of Southampton would still quite like to see the existing geothermal expanded.
However, on IOW, campaigning against solar farms and local to Southampton campaigning against interconnectors and off shore wind. Then, there are the solar farms and on shore wind turbines wider afield in the UK that somehow generally find their way to “industrialize” the countryside, rather than urban areas. Fish still seem to swim where there is water, also!
As “they” say, the facts speak louder than a lot of words. However, the good news is I managed to acquire some discounted Lincolnshire duck this am, and have been able to use my plastic to find an exciting recipe, so all is well. Yet, I expect another duck farm in Lincolnshire might gather more than 62 objections. Yes, the same ducks that shovel down the limestone! The same ducks that have areas in Lincolnshire where their farms can not be expanded as rocket fuel from the Cold War days still contaminates the ground. There is indeed a lot of “humour” to be found on DoD.
To hewes62 [at least one of us can be polite you see? Just to show that I dont get as ‘hot under the collar as some over their own deliberate misspelling?]
Do try to remember to avoid tripping up on your own ‘des théories du complot’ unfortunately I have to point out something you didnt realise you posted.
You write – ‘The rest of the post looks strangely familiar. Misspelling of posters names (which seems a tad childish but familiar)’
On the contrary, apparently you don’t read your own posts. Does this look strangely and childishly familiar? –
You wrote on – April 22, 2023 at 6:44 pm on the previous page –
YY Leeward – ? Is that childishly familiar enough for you? Perhaps that is too hot under the collar for you, that you make such a fuss about it? Your own words, not mine. I simply returned the complement with a lot of amusement.
Eschews Synonyms: avoid, dodge, duck, elude, escape, evade, finesse, get around, escape, shake, shirk, shuffle [out of], shun, weasel [out of]. Sounds familiar?
However, suddenly misspelling of your own avatar is a major issue of upset for you? Where was your upset when you wrote the very same deliberate misspelled attempt of ‘YY Leeward’ that you now complain so bitterly about when the complement is returned to yourself? Perhaps that is that lack of a sense of humour again. An AI manufactured cacoépique embarrassment, perhaps?
And then couldn’t even spell the name of the village of Glentworth correctly, even as it was already provided in the full report above for you to copy? Is that also so very childishly familiar enough for you?
So pray tell, does that then classify your own deliberate then ‘apparently’ cacoépique misspelling as [a tad childish, but familiar]? Or does that illustrate an inconvenient aletheiaphobic [fear of truth] reaction? It looks suspiciously like both, doesn’t it.
As I have said before, it’s not what is written by those who seek to use schadenfreude in an attempt to dehumanise and disenfranchise their perceived victims, it’s that they don’t even read their own posts let alone anyone else’s. But the intent is apparently to misrepresent anything that is taken out of context in a further attempt at nonsense ‘group speak’, that is most revealing of ‘des théories du complot’ rather than address the presented facts or truth in any inconvenient subject.
As for – ‘There is already an oil well at Glentworth, without the issues noted above’. There is another saying, that two wrongs do not make a right. Two bites of the cherry trees may be two too many.
Maybe the people of the small rural, remote and isolated village of Glentworth in Lincolnshire will heed the impending alarm?
I’ll leave the excited failing object-oriented programming system (OOPS), to malfunction endlessly once again. Are there any human beings out there?
Touche mon petit poulet cacoépique ‘enfantin mais familier’.
YY
As you note …….
It has long been the ‘practice’ of the oil and gas industry to target small, remote and isolated village communities. In order to insert their industrialisation of polluting oil and gas speculation and extracting the wealth. The practice of targeting small, rural and remote locations is specifically employed to avoid the uproar and protest if they were placed in a large urban setting
I am visiting the remote and bucolic town of Gainsborough, which sits on an oil field which is still in production. This small , remote and isolated town community must have been targeted by oil and gas companies inserting their industrialisation and pollution etc etc, alongside the existing industry, the remote West Burton Power Station and the remote river Trent. There would indeed be uproar if this had happened in a larger urban area. I visited what must be the most remote Marks and Spencer’s food store to see how they cope so far from larger urban areas, and the equally remote and isolated Next Store for a Coffee.
We discussed the reported (on DOD) expected pollution and gas flares, the earthquakes and noise, light pollution and leaking infrastructure, along with the the dire health and fertility degradation of hundreds of thousands of people due to dioxins from the gas flares and constant disruption from growling heavy goods vehicle diesel pollution, noise and vibration – in and around Gainsborough. While few knew there was an oil field under the town and even less that there were nodding donkeys still working there (near screwfix mate) it was accepted that having a main road through the town could cause a bit of trouble. Unfortunately, no pollution has been noted (unlike the old days when coal dust was an issue), no dire health and fertility issues, no gas flares noticed and no constant disruption, noise or vibration from anything to do with the oilfield. There was some vibration from the multiple coal trains when West Burton was in production, and these were diesel as well, but now there are none, just the East Midlands and Eastern Region trains which visit this remote town, on their way to Sheffield, Doncaster, Lincoln or Peterborough (direct) and the once a week train to Cleethorpes via Brigg.
Soon the remotely located fusion project will arrive to give local well paid jobs a boost and the planned large solar farms may, or may not turn up. No doubt the solarvfarms are to be here because of the remote location far from urban areas and absence of complaining types – etc etc.
[Edited by moderator] Perhaps if there was more interest in posting facts, then people would fact check before they post and remember that others may either be aware of the facts, or check them for themselves? Strange how people are conscious of that down the local even when partaking of alcohol, but on a wider (sober?) public forum wish to try their luck. Maybe just me, but if I made so many errors I would be less inclined to promote my identity!
My bargain duck was from M&S, also! Shame they were not so efficient at getting the salad or the fish on the shelves.
Are they still prevaricating endlessly on and on? Isn’t it about time they gave themselves up? Down to their last box of false narratives, it seems. The last word is for themselves, or each other, no doubt? A peaceful silence may prevail, which is more than the people of the village of Glentworth can hope for.
Avez-vous remarqué, ils aiment déchirer les mots des autres, mais quand le complément est retourné, ils l’ignorent et essaient un autre tas de bêtises? Quelle démonstration sauvage de négationnisme très sensible.
And still can’t admit to not reading their own posts or even my posts with any competent consistency? What a strange corner they have painted themselves into? Merely misrepresenting my posts out of context will not help to convince anyone.
And still no apologies to the residents of Glentworth in Lincolnshire? But lots of very touchy attempts at writing nonsense instead of contributing any facts or any truth. Where are the facts and the proof?
As for real truth and facts, here are some embarrassing statistics for those who won’t or can’t provide any of their own –
Gainsborough is a well populated market town, inland port and civil parish in the West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire. The town population was estimated at 21,908 Population in the 2021 Census.’ – *’ – https://www.citypopulation.de/en/uk/eastmidlands/lincolnshire/E63001384__gainsborough/ – ‘*
Whereas the population of the West Lindsey parish village of Glentworth in Lincolnshire was a population of 310 in the 2021 Census. – *’ – https://www.citypopulation.de/en/uk/eastmidlands/admin/west_lindsey/E04005991__glentworth/
So Glentworth is roughly 1/70th or [1.4%] of the population of Gainsborough. The facts still speak for themselves.
However, neither match up to a heavily populated urban location in a city or densely populated community where any oil and gas operations with active or inactive polluting gas flares and pollution waste are next to closely packed communities. More facts wasted on those who deny facts and ‘eschew’ the truth.
The 2021 population Census statistics show that Lincoln shows a total population of 1,095,000 people living in Lincolnshire –
Lincoln – 103,900
Boston – 70,500
North Kesteven – 118,000
South Kesteven –143,400
West Lindsey – 95,200
East Lindsey – 142,300
South Holland – 95,100
North Lincolnshire – 169,700
North East Lincolnshire – 156,900
So comparatively Glentworth is 1/3,532 or [0.0028%] of wider Lincolnshire. Perhaps those who claim others should do the maths as Rishi Sunak suggests, they can do it for themselves? So where are the oil and gas comparative locations now?
And yet Glentworth, in West Lindsey with a population of 310, is chosen for further oil and gas operations? Why not choose a built-up location? That’s been played out.
There is the proof that only remote rural locations are chosen for oil and gas operations with promised gas flares and heavy noisy polluting traffic. Present nodding donkeys are not the same as damage from future oil and gas operations with lit and unlit gas flares and leaky infrastructure, earthquakes and polluting traffic disruption, though. Which are far more dangerous and intrusive to the small rural population of 310 people in the village of Glentworth. But apparently that is of no concern to the oil and gas choir?
Les réponses, telles qu’elles sont, ne font que publier des affirmations absurdes répétitives et dénuées de sens jusqu’à ce que les vaches masquées rentrent à la maison [celles qui ne sont pas sacrifiées pour fournir une excuse pour les fusées éclairantes]. Aucune preuve, aucun fait, aucune vérité, juste des bêtises proliférées dans l’espoir que j’abandonnerai et arrêterai de poster? Continuer à rêver.
Oh, well. Maybe they should merge their collective conspiracy theories [des théories du complot] with a final over the top charge? It won’t convince anyone, not even themselves, or get anywhere, but apparently, it’s all they have, which is obviously nothing at all.
YY Why does God not put all oil reservoirs under conurbations? Could we not have waited until Glentworth was larger before drilling? Maybe build a few thosans houses first rather than at Scampton? Are there hundreds, or perhaps thousands of oil fields sat under conurbations, kept secret by the evil ones? Pretty cunning of them to forgo billions of bbl of oil when they can produce the odd drop elsewhere (etc etc). Must check why Wressle was not drilled from Scunthorpe. Maybe the Glenthorpe oil field can be drilled from the nearest conurbation via extended Wells thus ensuring all benefit from the experience (etc etc ad infinitum).
There was at least one commentator who wondered why no licences were granted to drill under London:
https://drillordrop.com/2017/02/15/why-not-look-for-shale-gas-under-london/
Paul
Thanks. Oil and non frack Gas is more discrete than shale. You are not looking for reservoirs in one case and large areas of shale in another! Mind you, shale under london would be local energy for local people. But I think the shale and frack issue has passed into history here in the UK.
Paul-
Looking at other things that are drilled under London-new and previous- I would suggest the costs of drilling and dealing with that would be somewhat self limited! Let alone the cost of a surface area in Kensington, plus the charges levied by the current Mayor against local business.
OMG!
Some research was forced, yet it produced? Nothing! Apart from 310 people in Glentworth- and 62 objected, although maybe not all from Glentworth. So, for those of us who can do the maths., even the majority of the Glentworth population did not object. If there were all from Glentworth, looks about 20% to me. Where were FOE? Goodness, I would be disappointed if I could not have drummed up more objections to a cat flap painted in a garish colour.
It does take me back many years when the lad in the playground has lost the argument, and then runs around shouting “I’m a teapot” in an attempt to justify why on earth he dug himself such a deep hole. Wasn’t called a diversionary tactic in those days, there was a term the rest of us used but it was less sensitive to the poor soul concerned.
Meanwhile, when the next application is made, with a house or two within view of the site, then it will be interesting to see the debate regarding “urban” drilling! I have noted quite a few over time, on this site, where DoD and others, have pontificated about any proximity of dwellings should preclude drilling.
I think “we” know by now there are those who don’t want drilling anywhere in UK and will argue to produce any excuse to preclude it. Some pretty desperate and weird stuff about hospitals, railways in Ohio and oil to be pumped to the West from Russia, and so on. The substance is whether the excuse chosen at any one point has any merit. In respect of Glentworth those who decide have decided the merit is missing, even without having to consider the desperate and weird stuff.
However, my duck was a triumph of culinary endeavour, so thank you Lincolnshire for providing me with that resource, also.
HaHa! Oh Mon Dieu! What a lot of over the top all alone nonsense as usual from the usual source? Must be a quiet day in heaven? Or the other place? The reverse is true, Glentworth village is only 310 people, a tiny fraction of other areas as shown, so where are the oil and gas operations in highly built up areas? And still no apology to the people of the small rural remote isolated village of Glentworth?
‘Some research was forced, yet it produced? Nothing!’ Forced? Nope. But provided because of the total lack of any research from the same usual source. No, not forced. It did illicit that response though, which indicates that it knows nothing, says nothing, has nothing that can even remotely be called reality. In a world of it own so to speak.
And what did the usual source produce? Nothing!
I apologise to the usual reader for dropping into the usual fake rhetoric, but sometimes you just have to descend into the open pit in order to extract some form of reality. Not that the pit has produced any reality at all to date.
Thats it for me folks, I’m off to do some real work, you know, the type of work that builds places for people to live in, not that targets and pollutes the people of little villages with toxic oil and gas operations?
Oh mon Dieu!
When you are building those places, just make sure they are sat over some oil! It is in your hands, but you will need to leave enough open spaces to allow for the drilling, and that is not usually the case with those who make their living out of construction, with all that fossil fuel used to achieve it. Concrete? Oh, must wash my keyboard having written such an environmentally taboo word, targeted by the planet savers.
Just washed my son’s jeans for the second time, after a soak in bleach. They still stink of diesel (he builds places for people to live in!) His employer did try electric diggers and then found they needed to bring in a diesel generator to charge the batteries. I will try putting them out in the sun and see if that helps-before the next Arctic blast arrives.
With the decline in the house prices in UK, due to people having less money to spend on mortgages due to high energy costs, the possibility of being able to “Dig for Victory” in your flower border should be an estate agents dream! I can just see all of those who moved from the cities to the countryside reversing that trend to get to the urban oil, so they can then remove the wood burners that were previously plonked into the urban houses to save the planet!
Sometimes research is not required if one already knows the facts, about such places as Gainsborough, and the facts have been confirmed by another poster who has local knowledge. Maybe inconvenient facts, but facts that are known and if not to some might be a rabbit hole that contains a poisonous snake. Sorry you have been bitten, but UK hospitals are in good working order and should be able to deal with such events-if you can race to one without running out of battery power.
It looks like it’s burned out all its corrupted object-oriented programming system [OOPS] floppy drives? Next it’ll be singing – ‘Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do. I’m half crazy’ – Its batteries must run out and switched to 110 volts [USA], which is the wrong voltage and blew all its own fuses?
Unfortunately, it’s now only turning out its own anti oil and gas industry gobbledegook, and it’s reduced into gobbling its own gook too? One minute it’s praising an [unspecified] hospital, no doubt constructed from concrete, maybe also suffering from which is just a word. So no need for ‘concretophobia’ resulting in frantic scrubbing of keyboards?? Or fear of words like ‘we’ which is called ‘Verbophobia’.
However, as has been demonstrated on numerous occasions in past posts, the most prevalent fear from that source, is Aletheiaphobia, which is a crippling fear of the truth?
At the risk of being ‘forced’ to research the facts and the truth, when no such research has been carried even once by the usual source, here is the latest report on ‘Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete [RAAC]’.
The question that the usual source of gobbledegook should perhaps ask itself, is – Would the hospital staff tell the patients if the hospital is subject to structural construction, from RAAC or other structural problem, or not? Now here is yet another challenge for the usual source of gobbledegook.
‘NHS trusts urge faster action over buildings ‘at risk of collapse’
*’ – https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/nhs-trusts-urge-faster-action-over-buildings-at-risk-of-collapse-02-03-2023/ – ‘* – 02 Mar, 2023 – By Ella Jessel
Quote – ‘It urges the government to ‘expedite the process’ of replacing unsafe construction materials which are still in place across 20 hospitals at 18 different NHS trusts around the UK.’
‘These buildings were constructed using planks made out of Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete [RAAC], a type of precast concrete used between the 1960s and 80s.’
‘According to the new report, 14 of the worst-affected hospitals could face closure without extensive works to replace the planks with new roofs or supports and mitigate the ‘risk of collapse.”
‘It adds that while seven are at a ‘critical level’ of risk, only two RAAC-affected hospitals are currently included in the government’s New Hospital Programme (NHP).’ You may recall, that the government’s [Boris Johnson] promise was that there would be 40 more hospitals to be constructed? How much ‘evil concrete’ would be required to construct those hospitals?
‘[Total] Consumption volume of cement in the United Kingdom (UK) from 2014 to 2020′ – *’ – https://www.statista.com/statistics/476761/cement-consumption-in-the-united-kingdom-uk/ – ‘*
15,218,000 metric tonnes of concrete used in 2021. So perhaps 1/3rd of that on hospitals? = 5,072,667 metric tonnes.
‘PM [Boris Johnson] confirms £3.7 billion for 40 hospitals in the biggest hospital building programme in a generation’ -*’ – https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-confirms-37-billion-for-40-hospitals-in-biggest-hospital-building-programme-in-a-generation – ‘*
And all that from ‘the devil’s own evil concrete!’ [Le béton maléfique du diable!] Without which, there would be no large hospitals to treat the treatable.
Dieu met-il du pétrole sous les grandes agglomérations de l’homme? Non. On pourrait interpréter cela comme l’inverse. Mais apparemment, certains fantaisistes plus fous pensent que la poule est venue avant l’œuf? Coqs quelqu’un? Coq au vin?
En Anglais
Does God put oil under man’s large conurbations? Nope. It could be construed as being the other way round. But apparently some wilder fantasists think the chicken came before the egg? Roosters anyone?
Though, there are talks only recently about ‘messing’ with the constituents of ‘the devil’s evil concrete’ to reduce its carbon content. However, guess what resulted in the ‘messing’ with the constituents of concrete last time? You guessed it, = Oh ton dieu diable maléfique Béton aéré autoclavé armé! [RAAC] – No, thats not the Royal Automobile Association! [OOPS!]
Which only goes to show, some object-oriented programming system [OOPS] don’t have the faintest idea what they are talking about, and never do any of their own research and only seek to ‘demonise’ and ‘dehumanise’ anyone that does do any research at all? Even when time after time, my research has proved the usual source, to be utterly wrong more times than even the temporarily maths obsessed Rishi Sunak can count? Does he count? Now there is an existential question?
Il est temps pour la poubelle pour ce lecteur de disquette brûlé, n’est-ce pas.
Touche encore une fois mon caporal de la disquette brûlée
Didn’t take that long to build the places for people to live in, did it!?
Perhaps a survey may be required, or the guy ropes checked. With the above jumble of nonsense to go by then buyer beware, if the maths. (fabrication) of the calculation of concrete required for hospitals is anything to go by. I have seen some strange “calculations” on this site, but that one takes the biscuit.
Ermm, I would suggest that new hospitals may be required in certain places where existing hospitals require replacing. I can think of one rather old Victorian hospital that is scheduled to be replaced and would not expect more than the minimum to be spent on that one until the new one is built. When that will be is another matter as local politicians get involved in deciding where it should be. I suspect there will be more than 62 objections whatever site is suggested.
In other places, where Trusts have not kept up, then maybe the Trust needs some adjustment? There do seem to be great variations within the NHS Trusts in respect of many standards.
For those who want to promote concrete then good for them. However, it is the same concrete that is targeted by XR and others for an unacceptable impact upon the environment during production! So, the anti oil/gas is not so anti when the oil or gas supports certain individuals. Ever thus, jumble of nonsense produced, reality somewhat different.
Haha! Oh Mon Dieu! Enfin! [Le piège se referme!] At last! The trap closes!
Right Mr ‘expert’ maths teacher, I challenge you now, so you will really have to provide your own calculations and linked sources of your own in great Rishi Sunak promoted mathematical [arithmetical in your language] detail. But you must do all your own research not anything I have provided at all, it must be all your own homework, no substitutes, no stand-ins, no fake other persons, it must be all your very own work. And you must provide it all on this page with all your calculations for all to see!
I will expect your reply tomorrow. I shall know if you try to get someone else to do it too. So don’t even think about getting anyone else to do it for you.
This will be hilarious!
“So perhaps one third of that on hospitals?” Hilarious.
Why?? I would be very surprised if it was anything near one third with projects such as Cross Rail and HS2 going on.
Now I do not claim to be an engineer, but I do know that the amount of concrete used in UK is determined by a lot of things, including the major infrastructure projects underway at the time the data is collected. What I also know as a UK resident that here in the UK the politicians, and some voters, are asking are there any shovels yet in the ground for the 40 new hospitals!? Within my Trust area there are intentions for one new hospital on a new site and one hospital to be rebuilt either on an existing site or a new site. No plans yet to surface, no public consultation and certainly no concrete. Existing hospitals are still subject to expansion and maintenance, although much of the new hospital building I have observed is fairly light on concrete, with greater use of modular buildings to speed construction.
I am afraid that when I employed real engineers if they offered me disconnected numbers and little knowledge of what was actually going on around them in the UK, the job interview would have been pretty short.
At least for those who have little knowledge of Lincolnshire they have been provided with some more random data about the population of certain towns and cities. However, in respect of one existing oil site wishing to expand it’s operations-like an existing hospital wanting to add an extra facility-still pretty random and disconnected. So was a train crash in Ohio, USA. All grist to a mill that is focused upon the random and disconnected, but maybe that is what is required when the subject only gathers 62 objections from those one would hope were not random and disconnected. If the substance doesn’t create mass hysteria then something random and disconnected may? Hilarious.
Il a écrit – ‘Alors peut-être un tiers de cela sur les hôpitaux?’ ‘Hilarant.’ Hmm. Oh, mon cher? Oh mon dieu! Veuillez noter que tout le monde a donné 24 heures pour trouver un lien détaillé et sourcé contradictoire pour ‘le calcul du mal du diable’ de ‘la recherche sur le mal du diable’ en utilisant ‘les mathématiques du mal du diable’ plutôt que le charabia habituel? Cependant, qu’est-ce qui a été fourni? Le charabiadu mal du diable’! Suis-je surpris? Non. Pas le moins du monde.
En Anglais –
It wrote – ‘So perhaps one third of that on hospitals?’ ‘Hilarious.’
Hmm. Oh, dear? Oh My God! Please note everyone, that I gave it 24 hours to come up with a detailed linked and sourced contradictory for ‘the devil’s evil calculation’ from ‘the devil’s evil research’ using ‘the devil’s evil maths’ rather than the usual gobbledegook? However, what was provided? The devil’s evil gobbledegook! Am I surprised? Nope. Not in the least.
Actually, it is hilarious. Very hilarious in fact, but not in any way that it ‘thinks’ it is? Quite the absolute opposite, in fact.
Pas de calculs détaillés référencés et sourcés sur le béton diabolique utilisé dans les hôpitaux alors? Vous n’êtes donc pas ingénieur non plus? Et pas d’aficionado de mathématiques fan de Rishi Sunak ou de chef de chœur de recherche diabolique démoniaque pour démarrer?
No one attempt at a detailed referenced and sourced linked calculations about the devil’s evil concrete being used in hospitals, then? Not even attempted? Am I surprised? Nope. Not in the least.
No? Why is that not a surprise? How many times has it been seen that it has made the most outrageous claims, but when shown the truth and facts by research into the absolutely primary source of information, that it merely attempts to cover up embarrassment with mysterious ‘friends’ or ‘knowing’ in some magical imaginary manner? All of which mysteriously somehow supports the total lack of any knowledge whatsoever? Merely resulting in irrelevant evasions, wild imaginary sophistry, total nonsense and drowned in disassociated gobbledygook?
So, ‘knowing’ it would, and ‘could’ not produce anything remotely rational, either in engineering requirements, or mathematical requirements, Rishi Sunak will be crying into his breakfast at the ‘hilarious’ display of total absence of any mathematical prowess above.
The next post does at least present a desktop study of what could have been proffered by the usual source, if it would ever have had the ‘nous’ to do so?
Does it want to eat its humble pie now, or later? No? Read on –
15,218,000 metric tonnes of concrete used in 2021. So perhaps 1/3rd of that on hospitals? = 5,072,667 metric tonnes.
‘PM [Boris Johnson] confirms £3.7 billion for 40 hospitals in the biggest hospital building programme in a generation’ -*’ – https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-confirms-37-billion-for-40-hospitals-in-biggest-hospital-building-programme-in-a-generation – ‘* – 2 October 2020
40x2x5 storey hospitals
40x2x5 storey car parks
40 external generator stations
40x2x5 storey ancillary doctors and nurses accommodation
Detailed desktop study –
40x2x4 = 120 hospital reinforced roofs [lightweight]
40x2x5 = 400 hospital reinforced floors
40x4x4 = 160 hospital mass concrete foundations [maybe piled] Doubled to 380 due to weak substrate
40x2x4 = 80 hospital reinforced access ramps for ambulances
40x2x25 = 2,000 hospital internal and external structural reinforced walls
40x2x2 = 160 car park mass concrete foundations [maybe piled] Doubled to 380 due to weak substrate
40x2x5 = 400 hospital reinforced floors
40x2x5 = 400 hospital reinforced ceilings [lightweight]
40x2x5x25 = 10,000 hospital reinforced columns
40x2x5x25 = 10,000 hospital reinforced beams
40x2x5x25 = 10,000 car park reinforced beams
40x2x5x25 = 10,000 car park reinforced columns
40x2x5x25 = 10,000 car park reinforced floor panels
40x2x5 = 400 car park reinforced transition ramps
40x2x5 = 400 car park reinforced access ramps
40x4x4 = 160 external emergency generator station reinforced walls [lightweight]
40x20mWx20mLx0.50m dp external generator reinforced floors
40×2 = 80 external generator mass concrete foundations [maybe piled] Doubled to 80 due to weak substrate
40 external generator reinforced roofs [lightweight]
40×0.5mx5mx0.30m concrete access roads 500 metres longx5m widex0.3m deep
40x500mx500mx0.30m external vehicle reinforced surface parks for ambulances, service and emergency vehicles
40x2x5x10 = 400 each storey ancillary floor panels for doctors and nurses accomodation
40x2x5x10 = 400 ancillary reinforced walls
40x2x5x10 = 400 ancillary reinforced floor beams
40×2 = 80 ancillary reinforced roofs [lightweight]
40 ancillary mass concrete foundations [maybe piled] Doubled to = 80 due to weak substrate
40x2x5x20 = 8,000 ancilary reinforced beams
40x2x5x20 = 8,000 ancilary reinforced columns
Total elements [approximately] = 20,018,560 [statistical average] structural elements and components = 5,072,667/20,018,560 = 0.253 average metric tonnes of concrete per element. Which is entirely reasonable for any structure, let alone a hospital
Pas de calculs détaillés référencés et sourcés sur le béton diabolique utilisé dans les hôpitaux alors? Vous n’êtes donc pas ingénieur non plus? Et pas d’aficionado de mathématiques fan de Rishi Sunak ou de chef de chœur de recherche diabolique démoniaque pour démarrer?
En anglais
No detailed referenced and sourced linked calculations about the devils evil concrete being used in hospitals then?
So you are no engineer either? And no Rishi Sunak fan maths aficionado or the devil demon evil research choir leader to boot?
Oh mon cher Dieu?
What a surprise?
Touche une fois de plus mon cher Perenco Wytch Poole spéculateur sur les fuites d’huile du port.
Va-t-il manger son humble tarte tout seul? Ou le partagera-t-il avec ses collègues spéculateurs charabia?
Is it going to eat its humble pie all by itself? Or will it share it with its fellow gobbledegook speculators?
Apologies, I did try to reply to that load of whatever, but my computer decided to remove it! I really must get around to replacing my keyboard.
However, I will take such a “calamity” that it was a warning that the effort was not really justified.
I will just ignore, as with the strange request I noted in my Trash bin from a lady in Paris and maybe a ‘phone call from “Amazon” later on. Such is modern life.
I can spend my time on “Freight train pulverizes FedEx truck on Wisconsin railway” and wonder where that will end up.