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Cuadrilla fails to fix well problem at Preston New Road fracking site

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Fracking equipment installed at Cuadrilla’s Preston New Road site near Blackpool, 7 August 2019. Photo: Ros Wills

Cuadrilla has confirmed it has not solved an ongoing mechanical problem with part of the fracked well at its shale gas site near Blackpool.

The company told DrillOrDrop other options would be tried before the well was fracked again.

But local opponents of the Cuadrilla’s operations at Preston new Road said the well was no longer fit for purpose and they had little confidence in the company’s technical ability.

The problem first arose in November 2018 while the well, known as PNR1z, was being fracked.

Cuadrilla used movable sleeves on the horizontal section of the well to reveal ports through which fracking fluid is pumped into the surrounding shale rock.

Two of the sleeves became stuck in the open position. Daily site records, released earlier this year, showed that Cuadrilla had tried to close the ports with cement.

As Cuadrilla prepares to frack the second well at the site, it reportedly told the Preston New Road community liaison group last week that a more recent attempt to seal the sleeves had not worked.

Rowland Wright, external affairs director at Cuadrilla, told us today that two sleeves remained open along the horizontal section of the PNR-1z well following the fracturing operation in 2018.

He said Cuadrilla attempted to seal the sleeve ports with cement in Spring 2019, but this was not successful.

“Alternative solutions to seal these sleeves are available, and will be implemented ahead of future fracturing of PNR-1z.”

Mr Wright said the sleeves were in section of the well which is “normally open and free to flow gas”. It did not, in any way, impact the integrity of the well, he said.

Cuadrilla’s hydraulic fracturing plan for the second well, PNR2, also proposes to use sleeves. The company said that with the regulators’ approval of the plan, it had all the consents it needed to frack PNR2.

News of the continuing sleeve problems at PNR1z prompted opponents of Cuadrilla’s operations to question the approval of the PNR2 frack.

A member of the Preston New Road Action Group said today:

“Cuadrilla still have a 100% failure rate with their wells. With two sleeves in the well stuck open and failed attempts to cement them closed it seems further fracking of PNR1z is out of the question.

“This highly-monitored, highly-regulated well is no longer fit for purpose. Having got problems with their first fracked well at PNR they now want to frack well 2.

“Let’s hope that they don’t do something that will have a more detrimental effect on people or the environment.”

Last year’s frack of PNR1z induced more than 50 small earth tremors, two of which were felt locally. The company said it stopped fracking prematurely five times to comply with the traffic light system regulations.

Analysis of the daily logs revealed that only a third of the planned stages of the well had a main frack. Just two stages (5%) were fully fracked. The average volume of fluid in the 17 main fracks was 218m3, when the maximum permitted per frack was 756m3. On only two dates did the company use the expected 50 tonne weight of proppant per stage.

In November 2018, the logs also reported equipment was left in the well. This was pushed to the end of the borehole.

Miranda Cox, of Frack Free Lancashire, said:

“Residents have long suspected that Cuadrilla were experiencing some issues with the well. We have little confidence in Cuadrilla’s technical abilities, and this does nothing to allay residents’ very real concerns about future operations.

“It is also troubling that the Environment Agency and the Oil & Gas Authority have only last week granted final permissions to frack well 2, despite Cuadrilla’s inability to successfully frack and seal this first well.”

  • The CLG meeting was also told that Cuadrilla needed another 12 months’ time to complete the drilling and fracking operation at Preston New Road. The next day, the company told us it would be seeking an extension of 18 months.

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  1. Miranda Cox: Cuadrillas honesty and forthcoming information regarding this operation at PNR is plain to see. They are not hiding anything, and the fact two sleeves are not functioning correctly does not mean there is a lack of integrity within the well. Intervention and Integrity of which the industry has plenty of experience, can overcome these concerns. Cuadrilla ensured that they adhered to the TLS and stopped the job when required, i believe they have acted according to their well risk assessment and integrity plan and carried out the correct amount of caution.

    But local opponents of the Cuadrilla’s operations at Preston new Road said the well was no longer fit for purposes and they had little confidence in the company’s technical ability.
    What experience have these locals in understanding whether this well was fit for purpose or not? and the locals believe they more technical ability than an industry related company? How many have worked in the oil and gas industry, couch experts!

    • Eli-Goth ” Cuadrilla’s honesty” has been very slow in coming. This event happened in November 2018 but Cuadrilla only saw fit to inform the CLG last week. Coincidentally after permission had been given for Well 2 to be fracked.

        • Eli-Goth Why have they admitted it now then? As far as credit is concerned, Cuadrilla claim to be open and transparent with the communities they impose themselves upon so credit shouldn’t come into it.

      • Pauline, the issue with the jammed sleeves and the attempts to free them, was first discussed with the CLG back in February/March.

        • John Harrison This report appears to refer not to the fact that the sleeves were jammed but that Cuadrilla have been unable to seal them. Was that discussed then?

          • Pauline, is it important to seal them now or is it only a problem when Cuadrilla want to isolate that section when re-fracking other sections of the well?
            How different is that section with the sleeve stuck open, from a situation where if Cuadrilla had of perforated the casing in the normal way?

    • It’s about time the local government called time on this small company that is wasting Lancashire’s resources.

      They have been given more than enough chances particularly in the light of the local community not wanting them.

      Just how many jobs created in 10 years?

      And how much of our council tax wasted?

      How much gas produced?

      Call Time Now!

  2. What experience have these locals in understanding whether this well was fit for purpose or not?

    How about,

    What previous experience has Cuadrilla had in hydraulic fracking. We all know Preese Hall was a technical failure but where is the long list of other Cuadrilla fracking sites? As they did not conduct a 3D survey before they fracked Preese Hall one wonders what technical abilities this company actually has.

    • [edited by moderator] you do understand Cuadrilla employs experience, its not garnered in-house. There are incredibly respected highly intelligent people in the oil and gas industry and they ’t take too kindly to people making assumptions and uneducated guesses at why they didn’t do 3D seismic etc.

      By the way what is your industry profession?

      • As you’re obviously a highly qualified O&G industry expert Eli Goth and I’m not, if it’s true that they didn’t do 3D seismic surveys, or even that they did the surveys but they were not fit for purpose or sufficiently detailed, then how could they possibly know the geology and critical fault lines in sufficient detail to drill and frack safely? Isn’t that a prerequisite of not causing seismic activity?

  3. Lancs County Council Development Control should not allow any more time extensions. Cuadrilla have had more than enough time to produce cheap gas for the country and have been unable to do so. Cuadrilla have already had to extend their PEDL which are issued with time constraints to maximise any benefits to the country.

    Time to return the land back to agriculture.

    • Waffle: While John Powney has also had as much time blowing hot air, which is also bad for the environment, climate, and the fylde, lancs and actually the whole of england.

  4. Eli you are just a broken record, I’m sure every oil and gas disaster was overseen by experts yet still people die . This is just one of multiple problems that Cantdrilla have had and it’s about time they were shut down permanently. Don’t bother replying on behalf of the industry as it’s all BS .

    • Jono: name who has been hurt / killed as you mention? Every industry has had its challenges, some more than most. Broken record?, well if records are your choice we have one thing in common! Oh dear.

  5. Please can someone (Ruth / Paukl / JP / Jono /Pauline) let us on this BB know why Cuadrilla’s 2 failed sliding sleeves in the first well are a problem for anyone other than Cuadrilla? No doubt the open sleeves may compromise Cuadrilla’s ability to re-frack the first well. I would have thought this would make the antis happy – but clearly not?

    • Paul T: please don’t make it easy for the anti’s to complain about, to be honest Cuadrilla has been too open with the information it delivers, do you hear all the information regarding BP’s offshore Clair Ridge project or Perencos onshore Wytch Farm assets? Do you hell, the anti’s cannot explain why they are against Cuadrilla, its anti capitalism, its called boredom, entitlement and too many couch experts who do not understand the ecosystem of the oil and gas industry and the importance to the UK and the antis are stamping their feet and are using their rights for information to try and pulverise Cuadrilla.
      What industry at this moment gets this much media and hatred?,
      An industry Everyone hates, but which they are happy to enjoy the benefits. The automotive industry is protected, worshipped and embraced, why?, & the oil and gas industry is cast-aside.
      Paul, it stinks of hypocrisy!

      • Eli-Goth

        I think that the National Grid, OFGEM and the generating industry will get a bit of a drubbing over the next few days.

        John Humphries ( 08.10 Today programme ) could not grasp the point that, losing two main generators would lead to load shedding. Then, once generation capacity kicks in, it takes time to go reset the system.

        He thought that the grid had failed, and did not ask why either supplier had rolled over, or what level of risk NG and the regulator had agreed on as being acceptable ( as lower risk costs more ).

        I will be interested to see how it all pans out.

        • Given one of the generators and the first to fail was a gas power generator, I wonder what outcome you’ll be interested in Hewes62? We shall have to wait for more information but the National Grid has already said it wasn’t wind generation that was the problem. Gas generators are quicker to power up than coal and the wind was blowing strongly all day yesterday so it will indeed be interesting to understand what went wrong. Hopefully the modernisation of the Grid will be expedited so that it is fit to deal with increasing renewable generation.

          • KatT

            I will be interested to hear why both the generators failed ( or disconnected from the grid ) and the expected resilience of the grid to such an event.

            In particular how much spinning reserve was available.

            http://energystorage.org/energy-storage/technology-applications/spinning-reserve

            On the Today programme the NG chap said it was not an issue with wind or renewables

            You are correct, gas fired power stations can come up quicker than coal, typically 20 minutes to get the GTs up to full power ( or longer if you get a problem ) and a bit longer for the steam turbine ( CCGT ). Diesel generators even quicker, similar to pumped storage if I remember right. Coal multiple hours. Nuclear ..days.

          • Kat T
            Plus wondering why the new Thameslink trains required an engineer to restart the ( electric ) train. Hence big delays.

            I fully expect Chris Grayling to be blamed at some point, but it is an interesting point, and frack free.

          • Kat T

            Some interesting info from the Renewable Energy Foundation re the outage.

            Especially the inferred increase in fossil fuel generation in order to forestall issues with the grid ( towards the end of the report …. constraint payments to Hornsea wind farm ).

            https://www.ref.org.uk/ref-blog/352-constraint-payments-to-hornsea-offshore-wind

            There is a link in that link to the National Grid report which gives the gas fired power station failing last ( a steam turbine trip followed by GT trip, tho initially it was reported as failing first).

            Plus, why the outage caused trouble on the rail system, even though the outage was a short one.

      • The appalling methane leaks from Perencos onshore were reported in DoD. I don’t think people simply pulverise Cuadrilla either, they criticise them because Cuadrilla want to extract more fossil fuels by hydraulic fracturing a controversial method that brings a heavy industrial process close to where people live and the end product causes global warming. And the automotive industry was deeply criticised for the emissions scandal. At least the automotive industry does admit that by burning fossil fuels it is contributing to the climate emergency and air pollution, unlike the fracking industry that claims it is beneficial to tackling climate change. Climate change scientists consider that hypocrisy.

      • Well well, what do we have here? It seems the industry couch warrors are still trying to insinuate that anyone who disagrees with Cuadrilla’s failed incompetent efforts to produce any gas at all, “is anti capitalist” (bizarre) “its called boredom” (demonstrably not) “entitlement (what entitlement?) and too many couch experts (written by a couch expert it seems) who do not understand (we understand only too well Ele) the “ecosystem” of the oil and gas industry?”

        Hang on a bit? What was that again? “ecosystem of the oil and gas industry?!!”

        Ha! Ha! Oh, Ele you are funny! “Ecosystem of the oil and gas industry?” My god! Such activities of the oil and gas industry are clearly and demonstrably ecocidal in every respect as the above Cuadrilla failure and long weekend read demonstrates only too well. The term “ecosystem of the oil and gas industry” in that respect is simply insanely bizarre and a total reversal of the truth. As incidentally are all the other unsubstantiated claims that are proposed there?

        And then we see this which totally contradicts the first “bored” statement “and the antis are “stamping their feet” (it looks like Ele is doing his own “foot stamping” here as usual doesn’t it) and are using their rights for information to try and pulverise Cuadrilla.” My god! People are actually using their rights for information! How awful! How dare they find out the truth from information they have rights to and make up their own minds about the failure of Cuadrillas activities to date!

        “Pulverise Cuadrilla??!!” Dear Ele, it is Cuadrilla who have “pulverised” themselves?

        As for “ecosystem” then it is the country and the planets “ecosystem” which is directly threatened and damaged by the fossil fuel industry as evidenced by the sixth major Extinction Level Event in history, the increasing climate change deterioration, the ice shhets melting at an alarming rate, and the sea water rise that is drowning islands all over the world.

        “ecosystems
        noun
        An ecosystem is all the plants and animals that live in a particular area together with the complex relationship that exists between them and their environment.

        …the forest ecosystem.
        endangered animals, bodies of water”

        “pulverize verb
        pul·ver·ize | \ ˈpəl-və-ˌrīz \
        pulverized; pulverizing
        Definition of pulverize
        transitive verb
        1 : to reduce (as by crushing, beating, or grinding) to very small particles : ATOMIZE
        pulverize rock
        2 : ANNIHILATE, DEMOLISH
        intransitive verb
        : to become pulverized”

        I see no wish or need for the pulverisation of Cuadrilla, they are simply unwelcome, unwanted invaders, and polluting of water and life and we want them to pack up and go, that is not the over emotional term “pulverisation” in any sense of the word.

        Astonishing hypocrisy isn’t it? We see something here that i predicted would happen months ago, an effort to highjack terms and weaponise them in their own defence. Something which we see a lot lately.

        Perhaps Ele should provide extensive and detailed proof of all those bizarre claims?

        But judging from past performance, that is extremely unlikely and certainly not possible in any respect, not that there is much respect for anyone or anything from the anti antis anyway.

        It seems that the oil and gas industry war of words has gone into overdrive folks.

    • Paul. It’s true Cuadrilla’s failure to fix the 2 sliding sleeves in the 9 months since November is their problem. I think you’ll find those opposed to fracking are happy that this will compromise Cuadrilla’s plans but we who are forced to live with Cuadrilla in our midst are not at all happy at yet another example of Cuadrilla’s incompetence, lack of openness and constant excuses and brushing off of any concerns the public may have. To them, everything is said to be inconsequential, we’re fussing about nothing, but that doesn’t explain the fact that they are now requesting a further 18 month extension having fracked only a tiny fraction of one well, the future of which now appears to be questionable, when they should have fracked at least 2 wells by now and drilled wells 3 and 4. They cannot blame the TLS because everyone was assured for 5 years that they could frack within those limits. Their planning permission was granted on that assumption and Egan stated immediately prior to fracking beginning last year that there would be no earthquakes. With such a record people have every right to be concerned.

      • Good morning Ruth and Paul of Drill or Drop, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, its Sunday again and its the 51st Sunday (or thereabouts) since fracking was resurrected again by Cuadrilla and the predictions were that by now, all that cheap gas would be flowing.
        But in the real world, all those efforts have come to nought. All though there is a return with this concept of “nitrogen lift” (a hotly disputed terminological battle ensued but no real clarity at all), which apparently has nothing to do with lifting gas, but attempts to reduce the volume of the fluids that prevent gas from being extracted. However that renders the extracted gas (lots of inevitable terminilogical rants and noise ensued on how that is done, or not done) unable to be combusted in a gas flare (weren’t we promised that gas flares were forbidden originally? When did gas flaring become acceptable?) and all those extra chemicals merely vent to the air unless another gas, propane (more noise ensued about that) is injected, to enable flaring (no doubt the mere mention of the words will be leapt upon again by the terminological twins)

        When you look carefully at the present insanity in the fossil fuel industry, the pollution and the exploitation, the lies and obfuscation, the corruption and back door lobbying, the insanity and the greed. You realise that it is not about oil and gas, the real subject we need to get right and preserve and protect, is water.

        Look at the DEFRA questionnaire and you will see that all ready the government is attempting to restrict your water use, that may seem reasonable at first considering climate change, until you realise that it is industrial processes like fracking and its associated avoidances of the word that poison and waste fresh drinking water and uses vast amounts of clean fresh drinking water that is now going to be restricted for the rest of us, but not the fossil fuel industry it seems.

        Here is the link again:

        https://consult.defra.gov.uk/water/measures-to-reduce-personal-water-use/

        So, what to say about water that is the “staff of life” and what may well happen to water in this country and the rest of the planet if we dont protect it and expose the industries wastefulness and horrific use of vast amounts of clear fresh drinking water?

        Here are a couple of appropriate songs that say something about it:

        Judy Collins
        “Wind, Water, Fire And Stone”

        A dream came to me at night
        When the boats were in the sea
        A dream of the black death of earth
        Two voices came singing to me.

        Wind, water, fire, and stone.
        Storms of sand, closing over the sun
        Sand, fire, water, and wind
        How can we begin again.

        But you can’t sink a rainbow
        In a world that is green
        You can’t make the night any brighter
        By even one star.

        Awake, awake, awake.

        Oh the rivers are poisoned
        And the lakes are gone
        The dolphins are dying
        And the whales have lost their song.

        But you can’t sink a rainbow
        In a world that is green
        You can’t make the night any brighter
        By even one star.

        Awake, awake, awake.

        Once I saw a man
        Who said he’d seen a flock of nightingales
        Once a child recalled the sound of rain
        Like silver angel’s wings.

        Like a lost and homeless thing
        The planet spins her way through space.
        Drugged and battered like a woman
        Who can’t recall her face.

        Remembering the way she used to shine
        Rivers in the sea
        Shine, herons on the wing,
        And hear the crickets sing
        A million forest birds
        The sea her mantle green
        Like a banner of bright hair
        Around her shoulders

        But you can’t sink a rainbow
        In a world that is green
        You can’t make the world any brighter
        By even one star.

        Awake, awake, awake.

        Wind, water, fire, and stone.
        Storms of sand, closing over the sun
        Sand, fire, water, and wind
        How can we begin again.

        But you can’t sink a rainbow
        In a world that is green
        You can’t make the night any brighter
        By even one star.

        Awake, awake, awake.

        A dream came to me at night
        When the boats were in the sea
        A dream of the bright death of earth.

        —–

        And here:

        The Foo Fighters
        “Dirty Water”

        I’ve been drinking dirty water
        But I’ve been here before, after all
        The witching hour is upon us
        So you and I can sing haunted songs

        In my dreams I’m climbing ladders
        And then I tumble down, rung by rung
        And I keep on falling faster
        The heart is echoing, on and on
        On and on

        I feel an earthquake coming on
        I feel the metal in my bones
        ‘Cause I’m a natural disaster
        You’re the morning after all my storms

        You’re my sea of poison flowers
        Standing in the sun, row by row
        I’ve been drinking dirty water
        The taste of sweet revenge, best served cold
        All we know

        I feel an earthquake coming on
        I feel the metal in my bones
        I’m a natural disaster
        And you’re the morning after all my storms

        Bleed dirty water
        Breathe dirty sky
        Bleed dirty water
        Breathe dirty sky
        Bleed dirty water
        Breathe dirty sky
        Bleed dirty water
        Breathe dirty sky
        Bleed dirty water
        Breathe dirty sky
        Bleed dirty water
        Breathe dirty sky

        I feel an earthquake coming on
        I feel the metal in my bones
        ‘Cause I’m a natural disaster
        Dirty water in my blood

        I feel a moment coming on
        Heavy metal in my bones
        ‘Cause I’m a natural disaster
        You’re the morning after all my storms

        Have a great Sunday with family and friends and take a look at that DEFRA questionnaire, because that affects every single one of us and all of our children and future generations that the fossil fuel industries are stealing not only their future, but their water too in their filthy polluting wasteful and incompetent operations. Dont let that happen.

        • Phil C

          It is good that you are getting a handle on the physics of gas lift, but remain confused on a number of issues.

          To help clear your confusion ….

          You are correct in some of your statements re gas lift, and not in others.

          You have also had a few questions about flaring, venting and a comment on ‘additional chemicals’ that I also address.

          1. Gas lift is nothing to do with lifting gas

          Correct. Just as lifting a weight has nothing to do with weighing a lift.

          2. It reduces the volume of the fluids that prevent gas from being extracted.

          Incorrect. It reduces the density of the fluid and the gas bubbles have a scrubbing action on the liquids. Both factors act to lower the bottom hole pressure (BHP) at the bottom of the tubing. As explained in the link.

          https://petrowiki.org/Gas_lift

          However, it’s aim ( not the physics of how gas lift works ), is to remove unwanted liquids from the well.

          Here is a link to help. Note that this is not specifically for frack wells, but explains in general ways of removing liquid from gas wells.

          https://www.aogr.com/magazine/cover-story/guidelines-help-operators-select-artificial-lift-systems-for-deliquefying-g

          3. It renders the extracted gas unable to be combusted in a gas flare.

          Partially correct. Whether it is incombustible or not depends on the % of nitrogen to production gas produced when the well flows and the design of the flare. A critique of Cuadrillas flare capability in this regard is given in the the 10th Comment I referred to in a past post.

          https://drillordrop.com/2019/08/03/cuadrilla-to-seek-more-time-to-drill-and-frack-at-lancashire-shale-gas-site/

          4. We were promised that flares were forbidden?

          Incorrect, the issue was cold venting was not allowed other than in emergencies.

          There is a difference between exploration wells and ( if successful ) later wells that can be produced to the grid ( for green completions ).

          The Preston Road Permit allows flaring, hence it had flares!

          5. When did flaring gas become acceptable?

          Flaring for exploratory frack wells has always been accepted, but with conditions. And it is permitted in the permit.

          See page 8, schedule 1. The first section of that schedule will answer your question re flaring and venting.

          https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/395902/Permit_AB3101MW.pdf

          6. And all those extra chemicals vent to the air unless…..

          Partially correct

          Nitrogen is indeed a chemical element, which is vented to air of gas lift is used. If this is the ‘additional chemical’ you refer to, then you are correct.

          However, if you refer to the additional chemicals noted in the permit, these are liquids and are separated from the gas stream prior to flaring ( or venting of the flare does not light ).

          7. Unless …. another gas, propane is injected, to enable flaring.

          This links to point 6.

          You are partially correct.

          Propane is injected in order to aid combustion ( correct )

          But you say the extra chemicals are vented …. unless …but they are not

          So ..incorrect.

          8. Nitrogen lift is a ‘hotly disputed terminological battle’ …

          Not for those with a basic grasp of physics for how it works, a reading of the permits as to if it is allowed and a reading of the comments submitted in the consultation process referred to above to understand the issues of flaring N2 rich gas.

          And finally

          Re water protection

          I disagree some with your take on the subject.

          You say we need to preserve and protect our water, but for the majority, we need to collect and distribute it, and protect it where you least expect.

          The SE of England is short of water, with no fracking taking place.

          Today I sat with a civil engineer and mining engineer on the Misk Hills in Nottinghamshire, discussing the issue of water supply to Nottingham.

          We sat next to a reservoir ( which the civil engineer was responsible for the construction of ) which receives water from Ladybower Reservoir on Derbyshire, for distribution to Notts, Hucknall, Linby etc etc below ( a good view ).

          We looked at the ripe corn before and reflected on the damage to the Bunter Sandstone aquifer on which we sat ( the Bunter Sandstone that is) , polluted by nitrates from farming and whatever else has been dropped on to it over time, but primarily from farming.

          The upper section of the aquifer is damaged, but the lower section is still ok ( said the civil engineer ).

          I asked if there was any pollution from the hundreds of oil wells in the Notts oilfields. He said no.

          So we need to be realistic as to what the threats to our potable water supply are. The consensus is that we need more storage and distribution, as we have the rainfall, but not always where we want nor at a steady rate. And I am sure that if fracking takes off, it can source water from somewhere else than from the mains, just as the canal trust and farmers do ( although the canal trust dams will now be double checked I guess ).

  6. Simple really. No-one can control or “regulate” a natural environment, no matter how much PR wash is added. Disgraceful that the consequences of the experiments at Preston New Rd have not been fully explained to the public — nor even, apparently, to the numpty politicians and “regulators” who are allowing Cuadrillla to continue.

      • Daniel Plenty of dms have been built. What occurred last week in Derbyshire shows that things can and do go wrong though and Nature can’t be completely controlled.

    • No-one can control or regulate a natural environment? Thats an extremely presumptive of you, the world is controlled regulated and managed.
      Why is it do you think you are owe answers from Cuadrilla, as well as your local council on the disposal of your household recycling, supply and contamination of your sewage works, agriculture disposal to local water and river ways etc… what answers are you requesting and what would you be happy to receive?, then after said answers are answered, would you want more clarification on these answers?, When does it stop?

  7. It sounds like every technical hiccups by Cuadrilla in its operations is hanging offence judged and sentenced by road side campers and professional activists with no science no engineering or technical background.

    • TW; please answer this.
      How much gas has this tin-pot company produced in 10 years?
      How much money has been wasted?
      They are not technically competent; even an engineer would agree…..

      • Sure. I agree they produced diddly swat. They are probably trying to drag things on to keep their salarries going. They may already know the shale wont frack and gas doesn’t flow economically so more problems more jobs.

        • Tommie

          If it were a gov or EU funded activity I would agree. But it is private finance, so someone is happy to keep handing over the cash.

          Maybe they are banking on a change of heart by the gov. If fracking is outlawed they can claim back their costs, other than delays due to permit infringements. They just need to soldier on for a while. But if the give up now, then they get nothing.

          I have no evidence for this…I just made it up.

          • Not sure the investors are ‘happy’ to hand over the cash; more likely caught in the same gambling loop ‘if I keep betting, eventually I get my money back’.

            ‘Soldiering on for a while’ hewes, i.e. another 18 months, will take from Lancashire council tax payers more millions which should be being spent on health and social care, roads and the community….time to end this farce.

            • Sherwulfe

              Yes, they could be chasing losses…….

              Sorry to hear that is the case ( millions spent ) re council tax costs in Lancashire.

              Over here in Notts / Lincs the small oil industry has operated since the Second World War without such costs on the council tax payer. So…..78 years of hassle free operation.

              Some activity recently at Biscathorpe, Tinkers Lane and Misson so not 80 years.

              The coal industry was a different case .. of course.

              • ‘Over here in Notts / Lincs the small oil industry has operated since the Second World War without such costs on the council tax payer. So…..78 years of hassle free operation.’ – thanks for the info, but kinda irrelevant….we are 78 years on and more informed 🙂

                • Sherwulfe

                  Indeed. But protesting had always been expensive if lots of police are required. So no change there over the last 34 years ( which is my experience ).

              • “Over here in Notts/Lincs the small oil industry has operated since the Second World War without such costs to the taxpayer. So…78 years of hassle free operation.”
                Fair enough. The operative word there is “small”. Francis Egan has boasted on BBC radio he intends making Lancashire The biggest gas field in Western Europe. The pad at PNR is huge, known as a Superpad. He and the rest of the fracking companies intend building 100s of such pads and fracking 1000s of wells. Plus all the other Infrastructure and waste disposal facilities such an industry would require. 65% of the country, mainly in the North, is licenced for fracking.
                How can this be compared to “a small oil industry?”
                Add to this the fact that any fossil fuel will exacerbate the Climate Change Crisis. Developing a shale industry at this time will detract from the renewable route we should be taking, Maybe you can now understand why people are naturally opposed to this industry being foisted upon them despite all their objections .

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