Campaigner outside Downing Street, where a letter signed by 8,000+ people was delivered to the Prime Minister, 1 December 2018. Photo: Carol Jefferson-Towner
Campaigners delivered a letter to Downing Street this afternoon, signed by more than 8,000 people, calling for an immediate halt on fracking in the UK.
The signatories, who include politicians, academics, community groups and residents in affected areas, also demanded a halt to coal bed methane activities and the use of acid to release oil and gas.
The letter said:
“Developing an unconventional oil and gas industry in the UK will result in unacceptable negative impacts on the environment, local communities, public health and the economy.
“The greenhouse gas emissions resulting from this new fossil fuel industry will also increase climate change at a time when the UK needs to be investing heavily in clean renewable energy and moving rapidly towards a low-carbon economy.”
The letter was delivered during a march and rally in London marking the start of the latest UN climate talks in Poland, which aim to decide the ‘rulebook’ for the Paris Climate Agreement.
Steve Mason, of the campaign network Frack Free United, with the 8,000+ signature petition, 1 December 2018. Photo: Frack Free United
The signatories comprised:
- 32 politicians
- 17 academics
- 20 non-governmental organisations
- 39 community groups from across the UK
- 13 Scottish community councils
- 18 international organisations
- 9 leading environmental campaigners
- 7,922 people in UK areas affected by unconventional oil and gas operations
Barry Gardiner MP calling for a ban on fracking in the UK, 1 December 2018. Photo: Frack Free United
Barry Gardiner MP, the shadow secretary of state for international trade, energy and climate change, supported the calls for a fracking ban:
“Action now could not be more important. … We know that rapid, far-reaching and unprecedented change is needed. Why does this government continue to support fracking? It is economically, environmentally and ethically wrong. We must ban fracking, invest in a low-carbon economy and create a net zero future.”
Sian Berry, co-leader of the Green Party, with the letter calling on the prime minister to ban fracking, 1 December 2018. Photo: Frack Free United
Sian Berry, co-leader of the Green Party, said:
“The UK must show political leadership by ditching climate wrecking policies like fracking and airport expansion, and committing to the bold and radical action we need to save the planet.”
Steve Mason from Frack Free United said:
“There is heavy opposition [to fracking] already, with only a few active sites in the UK. Thousands of communities are in the firing line. It’s time to halt fracking in the UK and secure our future energy strategy without impacting thousands of communities across the country and locking us to a fracked gas policy for years to come.”
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DRILL OR DROP? 
I find it very interesting that all the usual antis on this site all deny totally that Local Councils are heavily invested in foreign Fracking operations.
So this is to you:
Sherwulfe, Crembrule, Dorkinian, Phil C, Philip P and Refracktion
Please read the Friends of the Earth document
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://gofossilfree.org/uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2018/09/Divest-Fracking-Report.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjDzc_GmILfAhV0ShUIHTr-BDwQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2-0Cd0xR3DbE5SGNXrJ97u
For a complete list of all Local Councils investments in foreign Fracking operations…
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://gofossilfree.org/uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2018/09/03_09_18_FINAL-VERSION-divest-fracking-report-.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjDzc_GmILfAhV0ShUIHTr-BDwQFjABegQIChAB&usg=AOvVaw119kyweh7W8ezHhpCCLbLr
So the Government should provide decent funding to Local Authorities to enable them to be in a feasible position to end the use of resources acquired via fracking. Then as an island with a massive coast line, we should harness the power of tides. We also have plenty of wind power and growing sunshine to draw from. A rational public transport system would also help to reduce the use of petrol, conjection and pollution. This would all make sense aided by a ban on fracking itself.
Harry please read some of the posts over the past few years…
There you go Harry – saying what the UK should be able to do in terms of renewables but not really understanding the key problems involved.
Kisheny – why persist with this baloney. Nobody is denying that councils have investments in fossil fuels. You just keep shooting yourself in the foot e.g. you pasted the extract before about the Greater Manchester council which showed explicitly how they’ve taken on board policies to divest themselves from fossil fuel interests. As I said, these are legacy issues and its FoE that are pushing for more awareness on the investment front. You seem to be clutching on to FoE’s coat tails! I expect most councilors have been only dimly aware (if at all) of how their past investments have been handled by the third party financial management services.
Divestment processes are getting underway but it won’t happen overnight. What exactly is your point? By all means get out there and protest against those still invested in FF if that’s your angle … which it isn’t. You just seem increasingly confused.
Philip P thank you, you alone out of the anti brigade who accepts what Local Councils are doing. I have proved Councillors know what they are invested in as they have regular meetings to discuss this.
The point I’m making is this, Local Councils are happy to invest in shale oil and Gas, also fossil fuels on the whole but when planning decisions come before them for the exact same industries in the U.K they do everything they can to stop it???
The other point I would like to raise is the Labour Parties stance on Fracking, their Councils only too happy to make money from foreign shale industries but totally against it in the U.K. The Labour Parties current position on shale is they are against it because they think it will win them some votes when the irony is THEY STARTED IT!!!
I’m not a member of any brigade Kisheny, and why assume that I am alone in this understanding? Also you keep going on about ‘They Started It’ (Labour) when it is commonly accepted that those early, naive ideas around Fracking have been completely overhauled in the light of what we now know about environmental and health impacts not to mention the greenhouse gas emissions. That was pointed out a while back be another ‘anti’.
You use the same false argument already used badly. I recall (Sherwulfe?) waxing about Aviva and their divestment policy. Several days later the CEO was sacked with a £6.5m payoff and the company declaring “time for new leadership”!!
Divestment processes may be attempted but will not gain much support. Find (currently) the sort of alternatives that will absorb anywhere near the volumes of investment, give anywhere near the levels of returns or levels of financial security as the energy companies and that might increase divestment, but until then, very little-other than individuals who may manage their own investments and will accept risk.
Global energy demand forecast to grow 25% between 2017-2040 (IEA). So, forget it for some time to come. And, it is not down to Councillors-we have discussed that many times already. Please do some research into how pension investments are controlled.
Trying to gain the high ground out of a crooked argument is an unfortunate habit of the pro lobby. If you’d care to actually read the documents referred to (instead of making assumptions and leaping to conclusions) you’d see that not only is the ball rolling on Divestment but it is gaining momentum. The whole idea of building policies around sustainability and concepts like a ‘triple bottom line’ (economic/social/environmental) is relatively recent and large public bodies have not only been slow to change, particularly in the pensions area where they are into investment for the long haul, but equally slow to tell their financial consultants how funds should be managed (or even knowing that it was possible in some cases). While there’s a concerning overlap with stakes in FF the proportion is actually aggregated to an average of 5.5%. Kisheny would like to have us believe that – among the major FF companies mentioned – all they did was fracking. Despite any cause for gloom the FoE article is relatively upbeat, pointing out that so far “Over $6 trillion worth of funds has now been committed to fossil fuel divestment worldwide.” and that the processes continues as the bodies and funds in question learn how the implementation actually works (making investments align with upgraded policies).
The policies have not suddenly been upgraded. The guidelines on ethical investing have been ignored by Local Councils and to the best of my knowledge £9,000,000,000 is still invested in foreign fracking operations by Local Councils, pretty sure The Guardian will be first to let us know when let’s say £Billion invested by Labour run Greater Manchester Council has withdrawn their money from fracking.
As for the nieavity get out of jail Labour didn’t know what it was doing issuing shale Gas exploration licences, pathetic.
Interesting how you interpret ‘relatively recently’ as ‘suddenly’ K. Getting new policies in place would have taken time. Trying to make those effective – as rules to exercise governance over investments would take time (by arms-length regulation). Ensuring the adherence or alignment to said rules or guidelines would take time. Enforcement (if even possible) would take time. Wheels grind quite slowly in traditional institutions – they won’t be playing dice with new fangled schemes until the way ahead is clear or the pressure to change is unavoidable. Convenient territory to raise claims of hypocrisy eh?
Once again you failed the first hurdle, PhilipP. You talk as if these investments are controlled by “large public bodies”. There are not. They are controlled by the recipients of the income, some employees but usually the majority no longer employees.
If any within the management team (usually Trustees) want to change policy it needs to be authorised by the members. That is set in law for very good reasons. These are the same people who are having to pay out more and more of their pensions on energy costs and many are finding that a real problem-as Paris indicates pretty well.
Of course it is possible to access non fossil fuel invested funds, and many individuals will make their own choice around that. But, whilst the dividend high performers continue to be fossil fuel and banks, and not Tesla, they will remain in most pension investments.
I’m surprised by your muddled thinking here Martin. The gloss that the recipients actually control the funds instead of the professionals/experts employed to do so on their behalf – the reality – may offer a democratic rationale (that most people go along with) but that power extends only as far as their single vote if/when collective decision-making is an option. I did not say the large public bodies control their own funds. If you’d care to read the above more carefully you’ll see that. Again, conclusions leap-frogging assumptions just to try and land a blow. No single sentence could summarise the different ways in which ‘large bodies’ farm out or offload their fund management.
How do you control your pension Philip?
Oh dear the little ones have worked their little selves up into a fractious frenzy over some silly pension obsession and totally irrelevant to the subject of the post we note yet again don’t we boys and girls?
Such temper tantrums? Little red faces (did i spell that right?) all screwed up and little fists all clenched and screaming the place down?
It’ll be the little sock puppet dummies out of the pram next?
Oops! There they go! Honestly boys and girls, what a palaver over things so small?
Let’s sing them a little lullaby song to sooth their little nerves and send them back to bye bye land where they belong shall we?
Sing along boys and girls and then maybe we will get some peace from all this noise and bother?
“Frackabye babies on Drill Or Drop
When the wind blows the frack scam will rock.
When the truth breaks the frack scam will fall…
And down will fall babies frack scam and all….”
There, that should hold them for a while? though i think they need changing too?
Oh yes, and while we are about it, lets remind the little darlings what the subject is again shall we? funny how the little darlings seem to have avoided addressing that isnt it boys and girls?
I wonder why that is? 8000+ people cant be wrong, and the tooth herders are as silent as the grave again? Who knows what they think? Maybe they dont exist at all? Just a figment of an obsessive imagination? Invisible friends and imaginary relatives again isnt it?
“Picture post: 8,000+ sign letter urging PM to ban fracking”
There, lets hope the little darlings find something to mess themselves about there shall we?
We are talking about £9,000,000,000 of fracking investment by Local Councils who say they are so against fracking?
Write a poem or song about this please as you don’t add to the discussion…
Taking a petition in a plastic box, genius…
Glad to see Poland is hosting the latest climate talks. With their heavy reliance on coal it could be a good starting place for the greens to properly target.
Was looking at the figures for CO2 emissions worldwide last night. Have to say I was naive to China spurting out roughly a third of it 🤔. The UKs figures hardly even feature on the table.
I’m not really sure what the greens try and achieve protesting in the UK (that is a genuine question btw) is it to lead by example? Maybe one of my annoying friends can enlighten me?
Yep. Fair point. But if you look at the cumulative figures for the last 200 years i.e. the CO2 which has been spurted into the atmosphere throughout most of the industrial revolution period, which remains the predominant cause of global warming today, then you find the USA and UK way out in front. I don’t buy any argument that says “if they (China etc) are still doing it why don’t we” as if to say ‘two wrongs make a right’. The Greens are quite right to protest over England joining the dirty club of climate culprits all over again… yours truly (annoying friend).
“British carbon footprint shrinks to smallest since 1859.” The Telegraph 17/10/18.
We are NOT still doing it, although we need to continue that trend. Simples. Replace imported with home produced and invest some of the tax gain to develop proper alternatives that utilise existing resources rather than rape the earth of rare resources to produce replacement technologies and destroy the planet in another way eg undersea mining for cobalt.
yours truly-Eddy Stone.
(By the way, count up the volcanic eruptions within the last 200 years, and you will find your predominant source is incorrect.)
Philip, thanks for your reply. Although we’ll never see eye to eye I do actually absorb all the info put out by both sides, I’ve simply got different opinions but then that’s what makes like more exciting.
Ok so, I’m a little confused by the reply, you seem to be advocating that we need to pay for our past on the basis why should we benefit from an industrial revolution and not others? This is the sort of stuff I keep reading about in terms of past slavery etc. We really need to start being a little bit smarter about this and realise times are very different from then (i.e. we’re more educated) and without our past we would not be where we are today. I do worry if the mentality of the left was the norm we would still be living in the stone age.
Poland and China don’t need to be using the vast quantities of coal due to advances in technology and education so let’s just focus on that before we turn our attention to the likes of far less harmful energy, ie gas.
I also wonder about this claim that UK should be uniquely responsible for past practice.
Why not add the Italians into the mix, and after them you could add most of the other European countries?
Also, why does the judgement apply, but not the other side of the scales?
Whilst the past is interesting it is history and the times were very different. To judge through current prisms is nonsense.
Next, we will have suggestions that the CO2 produced in WW2 is the responsibility of the Allied forces who could have just allowed Fascism to take over, and therefore they should now have the responsibility to prevent climate change!
We can preen ourselves about the glorious industrial past as much as we like – the developments and progress have been fantastic. And no we wouldn’t be where we are today without them (I won’t even mention the mechanised warfare that plagued the last century). Things are relatively calm and cool right now. But do you know what would be really smart? … using our education to tackling climate change and ensuring that the next generations will actually have a habitable planet, a good place to live, and be able to look back at our generation as not having behaved with disgraceful stupidity and cowardly recklessness regarding the earth’s resources. See also my response to Kisheny just below.
Bringing up the industrial revolution? Class. Let’s look at today please.
Bring down global CO2 Emissions by producing our own Gas and employ carbon capture storage…
Stop importing foreign energy!!!
Let China, Germany, Poland etc import Gas and stop them burning coal!
You don’t get it do you. Greenhouse gases produced during the whole of the last 200 years at least is having a bearing right now i.e. Today. CO2 persists in the atmosphere for 100s of years.
Sorry PhilipP, once again you try and build a false situation to make your argument work.
We have had this chat before-I think you were away at the time. Do you have any pensions yourself and if so, do you ever bother to check how it is managed, and why? TRUSTEES, which includes representation voted as TRUSTEES by the membership. I have a number of small pensions and receive regular correspondence from the TRUSTEES about the investment policy and who I wish to nominate, or vote for, as TRUSTEES. Yes, some will be appointed by the organisation, and some by the financial company managing the scheme but they can not just decide, without the agreement of members, to change policy.
Of course, a new scheme can be set up within a new organisation and people may opt for a non fossil fuel policy then, although others may also opt out and have contributions paid into their own designated choice. I would certainly do the latter simply as the best performing investments have a track record of containing significant chunks of fossil fuel investment and the divested funds do not enjoy that track record. Bit too late to leave that to the gold watch ceremony before you find out that performance has not matched!
GBK-if you deducted the Chinese CO2 for making solar panels for UK and added it to the UK figures, the table may look somewhat different!
20k + in Poland for 2 weeks!!!
How many in Argentina, for how long, for G20?
Huge industry full of vested interest-and that’s not talking about the G20.
Awww! How nice of you to notice the poetry? I didnt think you cared kish? I know its a stretch for you, i read that J. Robert Oppenheimer of Los Alamos fame and the Manhattan Project, who quoted from the Bagavad Ghita after the first atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, admitted that when he was young he was determined to become a poet, but was convinced to become a particle physics scientist in the growing field of quantum physics in stead?
He wrote many poems, such as:
“It was evening when we came to the river
With a low moon over the desert
that we had lost in the mountains, forgotten,
what with the cold and the sweating
and the ranges barring the sky.
And when we found it again,
In the dry hills down by the river,
half withered, we had
the hot winds against us.
There were two palms by the landing;
The yuccas were flowering; there was
a light on the far shore, and tamarisks.
We waited a long time, in silence.
Then we heard the oars creaking
and afterwards, I remember,
the boatman called us.
We did not look back at the mountains.”
“Crossing” describing memories of New Mexico in Hound and Horn (June 1928)
“In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains,
On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows,
In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame,
The good deeds a man has done before defend him”
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Robert_Oppenheimer
You may ask yourself if it had been better for him at least, if he had followed his calling, but looking at the military insanity that controlled the project, someone else would no doubt have done the same thing, the difference being i guess, that we would not have heard the sheer horror that J. Robert Oppenheimer portrayed about the use that the atomic bomb had been put to when he made the quote:
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/manhattan-project-robert-oppenheimer
‘Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds’
Something perhaps that the frackers could well benefit from considering?
But lets get back to the subject in hand shall we?
“Picture post: 8,000+ sign letter urging PM to ban fracking”
The signatories comprised:
32 politicians
17 academics
20 non-governmental organisations
39 community groups from across the UK
13 Scottish community councils
18 international organisations
9 leading environmental campaigners
7,922 people in UK areas affected by unconventional oil and gas operations
Pensions are just another symptom of the equally insane fraudulent financial debacle, not the cause That will also evapourate with the fracking debacle fraudster scam falls and is discredited and when the wind of truth shakes the fracking invisible friends and their invisible white elephants out of the trees.
Thats it, just a symptom of the same sickness, in medicine its the disease that is the problem, the symptoms are only the indicator, we will never cure the disease by treating the symptoms, that is the allopathic lie that most of our compromised society is fixated upon.
To heal ourselves we must treat the root of the disease, and that, my dear friend, is why 8000+ people signed the petition to ban, yes, ban fracking now, before the symptoms, such as the pension scandal become like the banksters get out of jail free card, pronounced too big to fail, but fail they must as should have the banksters in 2008 and several times prior to that going back to the late 18th century, and to do that fracking, and its associated avoidances of the word, must end now.
The source and origin of the fracking physical and mental contagion, is government and their Big Oil and Gas paymasters, we cannot address the paymasters, they have no care or concern with anything but profits, look up corporations and do your own research,
But government are, theoretically at least, democratically elected, and should be democratically accountable representatives, though they seem to have forgotten that, or ignored that in order to feather their own tax payer and corporate funded nests.
So, no kish, pensions are not the source of the disease, they are but a symptom of the same problem, but that is a typical distraction trotted out to divert attention from the real issue.
The source, and origin is right where the 8000+ petition was taken.
Phil C, you’re trying far too hard to be deep – just face it you’re not. Essentially, a petition has be submitted by a small number of people who don’t actually know much about the subject. When the government downtown listen to a petition of over 1 million for a second vote why do you think that people will be interested in this pathetic effort?
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There you go boys and girls, that was plain as day wasn’t it?
Fascinating!
I have just disproved you….Judith……even with one hand concealed?
Compared to some here, it is not very difficult to be
Deeper than the deepest ocean
Warmer than the warmest sunshine
Softer than a sigh
Wider than the sky
Try it sometime, you never know, it may change your mind?
Phil C – sadly I missed your proof – maybe you could point me towards your deep intellectual argument- I won’t hold my breath
Dear me, the Paunch and Judith sock puppet death ray diplomacy tirade is running on empty again isnt it boys and girls?
And what is the “deep intellectual” argument offered for our consideration by this ……”Judith”……(we know about that dont we boys and girls? oh yes we do!) sock puppet today then? Is it vast vistas of intelligent debate and impressive content of knowledge and deep deep understanding of the meaning of life the universe and everything? Are we stunned into silence by the sheer extent of wisdom and demi godlike superiority???
Are we so impressed by fracking and its associated avoidances of the word that will blight our lives and that of our children for generations to come with poisoned air, water, land and the overturning of democracy and freedom of protest and speech just because a bunch of profiteering exploiters want to rip us off left right and centre with the complicit support of a thoroughly compromised corrupted government?
Errrr……..No…..Nothing of the sort is it boys and girls, ladles and jellyspoons?
And what of this government who are so ensconced in this fracking fraud, that they are being found in contempt of parliament for the first time in British history for failing to deliver its legally required obligations to inform parliament on the brexit deal. Theresa May’s government has been found in contempt of Parliament after it refused to comply with a motion passed by Members of Parliament (MPs) demanding that it release the full legal advice on the prime minister’s Brexit deal.
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“Sir Keir Starmer, the shadow Brexit secretary, described the vote as a “badge of shame” for the government.
“Never before has the House of Commons found ministers in contempt of Parliament,” the Labour MP said.
“It is highly regrettable that the government has let it come to this, but ministers left the opposition with no option but to bring forward these proceedings.
“By treating Parliament with contempt, the government has proved it has lost its majority and the respect of the House. The prime minister can’t keep pushing Parliament away or avoiding responsible scrutiny.”
“The decision, backed by a number of Conservative MPs as well as the Democratic Unionist Party, which has propped up her government, spells trouble for May’s government as it approaches the crucial vote on the prime minister’s Brexit deal due to take place next Tuesday.”
So even the DUP have risen up to protest, and that is the support for this government evapourated along with its resignations of MP’s Mrs May is in deep trouble.
So what value is now their support for fracking and its associated avoidances of the word? that will be sacrificed and dropped like the hot polluted potato it really is.
And what of the fracking protagonists we see displayed here on Drill or Drop then boys and girls? Do we see the magnificence of responsible debate and scientific justification for blighting the population of the UK with poisonous pollution and accelerated climate change disaster?
Lets look at this little contribution from the…..”Judith” school of death ray diplomacy shall we?
“Phil C – sadly I missed your proof – maybe you could point me towards your deep intellectual argument- I won’t hold my breath”
Are we impressed with that display of erudition and carefully composed intellectual debate boys and girls, ladles and jellyspoons?
Not, on your life are we?
And ask yourselves this, boys and girls, ladles and jellyspoons, do we want to allow such as is displayed here by the anti anti bitter bile and contempt brigade to have one seconds control over our lives and that of our children and future generations in anyway whatsoever?
So what do we say to these glazed eye empty headed vacant shells boys and girls, ladles and jellyspoons?
What we do is very simple isnt it? Let us dump them along with this farce of a government, Into the waste bin of history they go, with all the other failed attempts at turning this country into a devastated wasteland of exploited slavery and degradation.
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Back in the box they go, then we can begin to repair the damage this fossil fuel fool debacle has proved to have been done and build a country and a society that is responsible for everyone, not just the miserly bitter bile driven few such as we see here.
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So your going to rely on a state pension as you don’t have a private one?
As for the atomic bomb section of your post. My Grandad fought the Japanese in Burma… It’s a good job JR Oppenheimer chose particles not poems.
You chose poems Phil…
Two of my uncles were killed in Burma and other relatives in France and Germany kish, I have not said that lightly, are you trying to make political advantage from those terrible times?
Germany surrendered too late for the bombs to be dropped on Berlin where they were intended, but If you were to actually look at history kishy you will find that Japan was all ready negotiating a surrender to Russia and the allies knew perfectly well about that, but they wanted to demonstrate the weapon to Russia as the cold war was already underway.,
So Hiroshima was chosen and Nagasaki was an afterthought because they had two different designs to try out.
Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were civilian targets, not Tokyo where the Japanese emperor resided you notice or not even any other military target, of which there were many. So both were civilian targets and both had allied prisoners in camps, so they not only bombed civilians, they bombed their own people.
Look it up.
Japan surrendered after the atomic bombs were dropped, but at what cost to civilian lives and our own prisoners? Like i said, J Robert Oppenheimer did indeed use his scientific skill to produce the atomic bombs, including the one they exploded in Los Alamos, but it horrified him and he regretted his actions for the rest of his life and was vilified and attacked for expressing his conscience.
8,000 signatures? Wow. I thought the majority of the UK wanted to ban fracking?
Take a look at the “open” Government petitions:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions?state=open
The top 5:
Ban the sale of fireworks to the public. Displays for licenced venues only.
294,794 signatures
If England win the world cup, the Monday should be made a bank holiday for 2018
237,351 signatures
Rescind Art.50 if Vote Leave has broken Electoral Laws regarding 2016 referendum
201,627 signatures
Reject calls to add Staffordshire Bull Terriers to the Dangerous Dogs Act
185,948 signatures
Require supermarkets to offer a plastic-free option for all their fruit & veg.
127,322 signatures
Way, way, way down the list:
Stop Fracking in the UK (it has been running for over 2 months…)
13,253 signatures
I assume all you antis have signed?
Phil C – perhaps you should give DOD a rest and spend your valuable time on:
https://poetrysociety.org.uk/
Talk to the sock puppet Paul, cos the hand aint listening?
Perhaps you would like to dig the support for fracking figures out of this Paul?
https://drillordrop.com/2017/08/03/uk-fracking-support-at-record-low-latest-government-survey/
But be careful, your time might be better spent here:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/19/seven-years-of-protest-inside-the-fracking-resistance-photo-essay
and
https://www.earthdirectory.net/frack
As would mine in this respect? Rather than here:
Now, i have to say Paul that i would like to have found a whole list of pro fracking links to create some balance, but unfortunately, i couldn’t find any, so i have to give you this link, i know how you admire the link owner, so i am sure you would not mind?
http://www.refracktion.com/index.php/so-who-exactly-is-backing-fracking-unmasking-the-astro-turfers/
There, that is fair isnt it?
Oh dear Phil C. Clearly hit a raw nerve? Had to spend (waste) time on Google? Don’t worry yourself about pro fracking – Shell for example have 86,000 employees, BP 74,000, Exxon Mobil 70,000 (globally) why not ask them?
I always wondered how the Government survey works – who do they ask? Have they asked you before?
As for the Guardian (which I read every day) follow my lead and ignore the article and read the comments…
How many menbers do Greenpeas and Enemies of Industry have in the UK? Why only 13,253 signatures?
Awww! Poor Paul, the Enemies of Humanity”s owned employees are hardly free to express their true views are they, but the public are, funny there are no independent pro fracking organisations though isn’t it?
So they haven’t asked you and they haven’t asked me. Have they asked anyone who reads this BB? It would be intersting to know.
Probably because we dont live in safe seat areas in London and elsewhere? the MO of the report questionnaire is interesting too, i wonder how many people are intimidated by a face to face interview when they wouldn’t be if it was left for them to fill out and be collected?
Perhaps it would be more indicative if the questionnaire was taken in only areas that are likely to be fracked? That would be interesting?
‘To facilitate and accelerate the onshore fracking for shale gas
I believe the government should facilitate and accelerate the on shore fracking for gas in this country. The benefits to the country will be security of cheap energy, the creation of jobs and cheaper fuel to keep the young and old warm in winter.’
Petition ran 6 months; closed 30th Jan 2016 number of signatures………..drum roll…………………………………..872
You miss the point Sherwulfe (actually you understand fully). No need for a pro petition when it is already happening.
Have you taken part in the Government survey?
2016 that’s five years of stop; call to accelerate; went unheard; still pushing against the tide, but all stop again……why create a petition if you say there is no need? Perhaps the 872 didn’t understand the question?
Seems a big cart to carry 8000 signatues, say 50 on a page that’s 160 pages, I would have thought one small recycled cardboard box would have been quite sufficient. Maybe another dodgy risk assessment.
Protected by a plastic box!!!
Putin would be proud…
As would SHJ?