The Australian owner of Cuadrilla says it is carrying out a review of the company’s costs following the fracking moratorium.
A J Lucas acquired Riverstone’s shareholding in Cuadrilla in February 2020, taking its interest to 93%.
In a trading update, A J Lucas (AJL) said:
“AJL has undertaken a detailed review of the carrying costs of the UK shale gas explorer.
“While this remains ongoing, AJL confirms significant progress has been made in rightsizing the business to meet the hiatus in 2020 operations following the initiation of a moratorium in the UK on hydraulic fracturing.”
DrillOrDrop reported in December 2019 that key staff were leaving Cuadrilla as the company scaled down the fracking site at Preston New Road near Blackpool.
At least 10 had gone in recent months, including the senior geoscientist, financial controller, communications manager, director of public affairs and the executive assistant to the chief executive.
Earth tremors induced by fracking at Preston New Road led to the government moratorium on fracking in November 2019.
Earlier this year, Cuadrilla said it envisaged “limited, if any, operational activities” at the site.
The company predicted a “successful technical resolution” that would allow continued appraisal of UK shale gas.
A J Lucas said in the update it had implemented measures on workforce safety and social distancing for staff to reduce exposure to coronavirus in the UK and Australia. It said:
“Cuadrilla remains focused on working with industry peers and Industry Regulators to provide information to allow the UK Government to lift the moratorium as soon as practical given the constraints initiated to control the COVID-19 pandemic.”
DRILL OR DROP? 
hewes62-I much preferred your concise dealing with the reality!
Looks as if a lot of red tape is being snipped away at, as organisations seek to prioritise. Suspect it will all be rejoined in the future, but some of it may be left snipped. Not sure whether the NHS will be able to resist returning to the red tape, but hope springs eternal. Maybe sales of bourbon biscuits will diminish as more meetings become virtual, but that would probably assist the NHS to cope with obesity anyway.
I need to contact gov.uk today to stop our food package deliveries now the Supermarkets have caught up. “Strange” how the media have missed how quickly and efficiently the Government organised that! Really nice biscuits.
Appears to be a large number of people in my area who have stopped watching either BBC or Sky News due to a perception of focus upon anything negative, or as Libby Purves put it, “Or from a certain self-serving sentimentality in some broadcasters suddenly hell-bent on being everyone’s compassionate bedside visitor.” I see her point. I am still able to organise my own compassion, and would rather they focus upon NEWS, if that is the title of the item.
Hewes62
Curiously reality seems to be at odds with some however. Never mind. Headers are indicative of a floater arent they?
Meanwhile, back on planet Earth orbiting a fusion star, and amongst almost 7.8 billion living people. Many of them essential personnel (women). This is a report from Drilled on the moves by the fossil fuel industry to roll back climate change legislation under cover of the Corona Virus pandemic. Mostly USA, but its almost certain that similar moves are being made to roll back climate change legislation, such as it is, right here in UK. Such is “flexibility”
“The Climate Rules Being Rolled Back During the COVID-19 Pandemic
https://drillednews.substack.com/people/501293
The Drilled News Climate & COVID-19 Policy Tracker is keeping an eye on climate change-related rollbacks by the Trump administration and state governments amid the coronavirus crisis, along with favors to oil and gas, and other energy and climate-related industries.
By Amy Westervelt and Emily Gertz
Published April 6, 2020
“Last updated April 13, 2020 4:56pm ET”
Phil C
It would not surprise me if pandemic resulted in a review of the UK Climate targets.
However I do not see that’d the OGA will lead the charge.
Low oil prices will shrink the UK production base and ensure that we import for years to come.
Maybe Norway is lobbying the SNP as we speak to keep all Scottish oil in the ground and Nigeria is begging us to cut production.
Outwith those key players the supermarkets may lobby the gov as they are Part of the fossil fuel industry?
Martin
Yes, the media do like to report bad news or worrying news and to be that compassionate bedside visitor.
They have also failed to find any of the many who accept that, if they or their loved ones die, they will not be at the bedside.
Meanwhile I await some facts about PPE supply. All i hear is that it is in short supply, but no in depth article as to exactly what is going on.
However, as I type, there is a story about a 99 year old walking laps of his garden to raise money for the NHS. Good luck to him.
Although showing as ‘dissolved’ on many sites, if the Spanish company Cuadrilla Resources Ibercia S.L thought they might be drilling for shale in the future they are sadly mistaken according to the Spanish Government,
https://murciatoday.com/spanish_government_plans_to_ban_fracking_1396024-a.html
Even more investors money wasted.
I was under the impression that fracking in Spain was brought to a halt some years ago.
Hence, while Cuadrilla may have spent some money thinking about it untill 2017 say, I doubt that you would detect it on the balance sheet.
https://english-elpais-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/english.elpais.com/elpais/2017/03/14/inenglish/1489505343_720028.html?amp_js_v=a3&_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15869529136801&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fenglish.elpais.com%2Felpais%2F2017%2F03%2F14%2Finenglish%2F1489505343_720028.html
Wonder where “almost certain” fits into the reality/speculation/fabrication scale?
But, that is the joy of the Internet. We are all directed to be excited, panic and to speculate further based upon opinion rather than reality. Quite expected, but as I stated in, my previous post, it would be nice if there were some areas of NEWS that avoided the lure to join in and compete.
Sectors, where it has already been decided they are “essential”, will receive support of some sort, by most countries. Individuals will have a different view of what is an essential industry. They can campaign to change that. Didn’t work out in Australia though. Often the majority is silent until they make that known. Seems to be the excuse the media constantly use in the UK when they are so far out regards elections and referendums. Perhaps they would be more accurate if they avoided the Internet approach, stuck to the reality and had a better handle on the views of the silent majorities?
Looking around my local area, agriculture is working hard to fill it’s essential billing and doing so with a hefty use of red diesel, (which has been “assisted” for many years for very good reasons)-as it does always at this time of year. Later in the year we will take it for granted that happened as we consume the produce, and some will still moan their French Beans were late arriving by air freight from Kenya and the courgette truck was late arriving from Spain.
But, my postman has arrived, in his fossil fuelled van, with my cucumber seeds, so must get them planted. £4 for 4 seeds! Now, that is exciting.
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There you go Paul Seaman, what did i tell you? Obsessives always return to the scene of the crime. Like a moth to the flame. Just a little flutter and “phut!” Another foggy moth burns to the ground in apocryphal distress.
As for reality back down here on planet Earth. Strickly for those of us who still want reality and truth, in spite of those who prefer speculation/fabrication scales to excite their own egos.
The rest of us can find the real world right here on Desmog UK folks! Yayyy! Yippeee! More! More!
“Climate Science Deniers Use Coronavirus to Downplay Environmental Threats”
“Commentators known to spread disinformation on climate change are using the COVID-19 pandemic to downplay the threat of environmental crises and undermine action, DeSmog analysis has found.
The World Health Organization (WHO) officially declared that the COVID-19 outbreak was a pandemic on 11 March 2020. The virus has affected hundreds of countries and territories worldwide, and has so far led to tens of thousands of deaths.
Its arrival in the UK spawned thousands of words of commentary, with many writers who have previously used their platforms to undermine mainstream climate science or attack climate action turning their attention to the pandemic. Their attacks normally take one of three forms.
Environmentalists have been quick to point out that the drop in carbon emissions and air pollution due to the COVID-19 outbreak is unlikely to have a long-term impact, and that policies they have long promoted do not require any great loss of liberty or need to sacrifice quality of life. But libertarian voices and free-market advocates nonetheless claim the government-implemented lockdown measures represent an outcome that environmental activists have been fighting for all along.
Brendan O’Neill, editor of Koch-funded website Spiked, argued that “this pandemic has shown us what life would be like if environmentalists got their way”. In a column titled “COVID-19: a glimpse of the dystopia greens want us to live in,” O’Neill claimed government responses to the virus represent a “warped dystopia” that environmentalists like George Monbiot have been calling for.
O’Neill regularly speaks out against what he describes as “climate change alarmism” and is highly critical of Extinction Rebellion, Greta Thunberg and other environmental activists, which he says are the “enemies of liberty”. Political blog Guido Fawkes also used the crisis to regularly attack Extinction Rebellion, claiming that the group had “hijacked” COVID-19 for its own ends.
Previously, O’Neill referred to the COVID-19 outbreak as a “fashionable apocalypse” similar to those supposedly constructed by environmentalists and those wanting the UK to stay in the EU.
Motor show host Jeremy Clarkson made a similar argument in The Times, describing the COVID-19 pandemic as a scenario “our eco friends have been dreaming about.” For “hardcore environmentalists”, he argued, the coronavirus lockdown is “their idea of a wet dream. Fewer people, no travel, no pollution and, as a smear of icing on the cake, no commerce.”
Clarkson has questioned the validity of anthropogenic climate change for years, though he recently appeared to soften his stance.
Former UKIP and Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage meanwhile accused environmentalists of failing to stand up to repressive regimes in the wake of the COVID-19 crisis, claiming “the Green lobby is happy to inflict chaos on our society any time it chooses”. Specifically, he said environmentalists were not doing enough to challenge China, which he blames for the global pandemic. Farage has previously said he “hasn’t got a clue” whether carbon dioxide drives climate change.
‘Compared to COVID-19, Climate Change is a Non-Problem…’
Other commentators have used the COVID-19 pandemic to downplay the threat of climate change.
The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF), the UK’s most prominent climate science denial group, has regularly shared material promoting this argument over the past two weeks.
The group recently reposted an article written by Jeff Jacoby that said the “horrors of pandemics have been documented and depicted often. Yet while climate activists have been forecasting world-ending doomsday scenarios since the 1960s, the apocalypse never seems to materialize.” Jacoby, who has previously claimed global warming “brings positives”, was at pains to point out that, in contrast to climate change, “plagues are real”.
The GWPF also shared an article by Lorrie Goldstein, originally published in the Toronto Sun, who argued that the world had “gambled on the wrong threat – climate change.” Goldstein argued that COVID-19 “shows us what the world will be like if we abandon fossil fuels prematurely,” claiming that without high-carbon fuels, “hospitals could not maintain sterile conditions”.
Dutch climate science denial group CLINTEL echoed the sentiment that climate change was not a real threat in an open letter titled “fight virus not carbon”.
The group demanded that the EU’s Green New Deal be abandoned because “compared to COVID-19 climate change is a non-problem.” The letter was signed by high-profile climate science deniers including Viv Forbes, Fritz Vahrenholt, and Richard Lindzen.
Likewise, Rupert Darwall, a policy consultant and GWPF report writer, contrasted the threat of climate change and COVID-19 in an article for The Hill saying the pandemic “shows what a genuine crisis looks like”.
Read about US COVID-19 misinformation — Meet the Climate Science Deniers Who Downplayed COVID-19 Risks
Sherelle Jacobs, writing in the Telegraph, for which Darwall has also regularly written, argued that “we need to redirect university financing away from climate change predictive modelling, into the scientifically uncontested problem of pandemics.” Jacobs has regularly used her platform to cast doubt on the veracity of mainstream climate science.
Tom Welsh, the Telegraph’s comment editor, also claimed that coronavirus has made environmental projects look “extraordinarily decadent”. In the same vein, controversial media personality Katie Hopkins expressed her delight that in the face of the pandemic, “climate weirdos have shut up”.
“This Coronavirus Pandemic Could Be a Big Hoax…”
There are some climate science deniers that consider COVID-19 to be a conspiracy or that disregard it as a threat; though these are fewer in the UK than the US.
Piers Corbyn, a self-styled ‘weatherman’ whose work Boris Johnson has previously promoted, recently claimed the pandemic is a “world population cull” created by “mega-rich control freaks” Bill Gates and George Soros to deal with carbon dioxide emissions.
Piers Corbyn, who has previously said that “globalist elites” are using climate science as a cover to deindustrialise the West, also falsely claimed that Soros owns a company in Wuhan, and urged his Twitter followers to “refuse the vaccine”.
Godfrey Bloom, former UKIP MEP, echoed these sentiments when he tweeted about “the coronavirus hoax”, linking to an article that questioned whether the pandemic could be a “big hoax” by those “who seek to profit – financially or politically – from the ensuing panic.” Former UKIP researcher Ben Pile also took to Twitter to suggest people were “being played” by the media coverage of both the risks of COVID-19 and climate change.
Some climate science deniers have even claimed they have found a cure for COVID-19. Breitbart columnist James Delingpole has shared his interest in hearing from funders after claiming he fought through a COVID-19 infection with “a high powered zinc formula” ; a theory a University of Reading professor in cellular microbiology has called “absolute garbage.” Alt-right talk show radio host Alex Jones also allegedly marketed ineffective treatments and cures for COVID-19 on his show – a charge he denies.”
Always happy to correct those who must blindly blunder into the flame.
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You would imagine that the Climate Science Disciples and the Climate Science Deniers would take the pandemic as a God given opportunity to diss the other side, and so it seems.
Good that action is being taken tho by others.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/covid-deniers-shadowy-social-media-groups-spreading-myths-conspiracy1/
But, are climate change deniers leading the charge in torching 5G masts, or is that another bunch ( an offshoot of the anti smart meter group maybe ). Or is it the disciples?
I am sure we will find out soon enough, perhaps it’s a mixture of Climate change Disciples, believers, followers, cluless, sceptics and deniers.
Phil C
Time on our hands. I had a good chuckle about that.
On this DoD post you are writing around 3 words for each one I type.
So, you may have three times as much time on your hands, you type three times faster and we are equal, or you type >3 times faster and therefore have less.
That is if the amount posted by any one person reflects the amount of time they have on their hands. Perish the thought.
Post today’s work I will comment on your views on Safety Law Regulatory Compliance.
You say that there is no flexibility in the safety regulations, but there is.
So not to worry, I will back that up with links to the HSW Act and how it replaced the old prescriptive regs with more flexible ones guided by the process of risk assessment and reasonable practicality ( to whit,something may be less reasonably practicable during a pandemic than would otherwise be the case ).
More later.
hewes62, You are not preaching to the converted you know. Though perhaps there is one you could redirect back to the real world? God alone where he is now?
Well all its just fun isnt it? Ask Paul Tresto, he thinks everything on Drill or Drop is just to pass the time? Everyone to their own i guess.
I dont count your words hewes62? Do you really count mine? How odd? That explains the word Association Football though doesnt it. A bit “strickly” unnecessary though isnt it? But hey! If it passes all that free time on your hands, then why not?
Dont bother with any more long posts hewes62. I wont read them. Ive already said everything that needed saying. Save your energy for better times. Then we will need all the time we can get.
Enjoy!
Enjoy!
Phil C
A rough guess based on length of posts on page. A word count would be to a decimal point ( though if you ever need to do that, cut all and paste to word. delete other posts. bingo).
Saves ones free time.
Paul Tresto here PhilC – unfortunately you haven’t said anything “that needed saying” on DOD that I can recall. But it clearly keeps you busy.
The good news is that Hewes62 knows what he is talking about…..
Oops! Not a happy bunny! You are welcome to your own opinion Paul Tresto. Unfortunately, or fortunately, that merely betrays your own mindset and not mine.
Still self censoring too I see? How would you know if as you claim, that you don’t look? I recall someone else had that problem. That turned out not to be true as well.
Anti anti logic fails again.
Never mind Paul. The truth will out.
These terrible events worldwide, has enabled many more people to wake up to the truth. Those who had previously believed what they were told to believe about the fossil fuel industry propaganda. Exxon and Shells own scientists warned about that back nearly fifty years ago. Now all those sleepers have woken up to the truth.
The truth is the deliberate exploitation of the Earth’s resources, animal vegetable and mineral, for primarily profit and greed. That has resulted in the destruction of the natural environment to the point of species collapse and massive climate deterioration. Nature itself in all its miriad forms has become sick due to destruction and pollution of the Earths natural environments. That sickness has now come home to roost amongst the humans race in the form of this latest pandemic. If we don’t turn back to live in harmony with the planet right now, this pandemic will be as nothing to the next pandemic, and more beyond that.
Nature will always balance the world and if necessary wipe out the offending species. Look in the mirror.
It’s happened before many times in the long history of the Earth. Many of those species are now extinct. Maybe we will survive this first worldwide pandemic, maybe the next, but not the last.
So unless we wake up and begin to repair the destruction the human race has wrought across the world. It will happen again and again, until we do learn, or we die to the last person in the Age of Stupid.
It’s now only a matter of time before the entire planets population realise just how they have been entrapped into the fossil fuel propaganda, that should have been stopped fifty years ago. Worldwide climate disaster will run in parallel with pandemics until at last we make the fossil fuel industry pay and work for the betterment of man and nature, and at last clean up the mess worldwide.
That is no longer just a maybe or a possibility, it’s already a certainty.
Time to grow up and stop rampaging across the world (this one) like a bunch of business as usual spoilt little children.
That clear enough for you Paul?
We should be working together Paul and hewes62, not against eachother, but as we all know, some only exist to divide and rage against the light of reason and intelligence.
Do I see one rising to the bait right now? We shall see…..
Phil C
I see you say that the world population has been entrapped by fossil fuel propaganda.
Have you any examples of such propaganda in relation to coal? Specifically, for the UK so we can recognise what we were exposed to and how we were entrapped?
Likewise, any such propaganda from Norway re their oil and gas that keeps us entrapped?
Have you any propaganda examples from Tesco which has entrapped us?
Which is to say, i am not concinced you are right on that point.
Pointless diversion from hewes62. Those are your logic chopping irrelevances again arent they. Too much time on your hands again i suppose? Or is that just another word association football attempt to disagree with anything i say?
Stalkers, not talkers again.
I suggest you read up on the Exxon and Shell scientists announcement that climate change was assured by the start of the 21st century id fossil fuel monopolies were not gradually replaced by less polluting technology. But both Exxon and Shell then redacted their testimony and then proceeded to do exactly the opposite. They employed a massive disinformation campaign and a lobbying campaign in governments which as i said earlier has redoubled in intensity, in order to deny climate change and continue to devastate the entire planets ecological systems.
It is those ecological systems which have kept us all alive all this time, and now because of Exxon and Shell’s active moves to suppress the truth of their own scientists words, that has led us down this self destructive suicidal plunge into ecological collapse and our own demise in these increasing pandemics.
Funny you failed to mention that but merely concentrate on logic chopping and irrrevent diversions again isnt it?
No change there then. Same old same old hewes62? Up the wrong dried up creek again without a puddle.
Look back at the previous page hewes62.
Enjoy!
Enjoy!
PS Thats two rising to the bait, must be the right hook….Hmm, “right hook”? Only too appropriate perhaps?
Phil C
Thanks. As you raise the point regarding propaganda and how we have been entrapped by fossil fuel propaganda i thought you may have some examples.
It seems not.
So why raise the issue if you think it is pointless? Indeed why raise any issue here on DoD if you feel uncomfortable or unable to back it up facts?
Phil C
You say
”Exxon and Shell scientists announcement that climate change was assured by the start of the 21st century id fossil fuel monopolies were not gradually replaced by less polluting technology. But both Exxon and Shell then redacted their testimony and then proceeded to do exactly the opposite. They employed a massive disinformation campaign and a lobbying campaign in governments which as i said earlier has redoubled in intensity, in order to deny climate change and continue to devastate the entire planets ecological systems”.
However, you earlier said that the world population has been entrapped by fossil fuel propaganda.
Are you now saying that it was world governments that were entrapped by this propaganda rather than the population as a whole?
Plus, are Shell and Exxon representative of the whole of the fossil fuel industry (did Aramco sign up to the study ) and what did the Coal industry have to say about it all?
I have read said information ( and some ) over the years, but few have, in my experience, which is why I doubt that it is the population that have been entrapped.
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No hewes62 I have already told you about Exxon and Shell that is enough to to be going on with. You research that thoroughly and then come back for more enlightenment if you need it. It will be a long and eye opening journey for you. Though If you self censor and ignore it, then judging from past performance I will not be surprised.
I’m not going to spoon feed you. Paul Tresto presents similar demands. He doesn’t get his arrogant demands either. I will afford you the same curtesy. You will have to make that journey into the light on your own.
Your journey to enlightenment starts there. Off you go, it’s going to open your eyes. And not before time.
No hewes62 it is your own demanding expectation which is at fault. It’s down to you to prove it, not me. I already know the truth.
Therefore i am disinclined to acquiesce to your request…..Means No….GDYOR.
Do try to calm down hewes62, it’s all for your own good you know.
Have another nice evening.
No No No No No hewes62. I most certainly did not say the government’s were entrapped hewes62. I said that governments were and are lobbyed which is perfectly true.
So yet again you are making it up as you go along again aren’t you. If you really must quote me then actually read what I said. Not make it up into something it isn’t so transparently.
Strange that you quoted what I said but you didn’t read it isn’t it? What i did say was:
”Exxon and Shell scientists announcement that climate change was assured by the start of the 21st century if fossil fuel monopolies were not gradually replaced by less polluting technology. But both Exxon and Shell then redacted their testimony and then proceeded to do exactly the opposite. They employed a massive disinformation campaign and a lobbying campaign in governments which as i said earlier has redoubled in intensity, in order to deny climate change and continue to devastate the entire planets ecological systems”.
Where did I say governments were entrapped in that quote?
No hewes62 I didn’t.
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Phil C
It would not surprise me if pandemic resulted in a review of the UK Climate targets.
However I do not see that’d the OGA will lead the charge.
Low oil prices will shrink the UK production base and ensure that we import for years to come.
Maybe Norway is lobbying the SNP as we speak to keep all Scottish oil in the ground and Nigeria is begging us to cut production.
Outwith those key players the supermarkets may lobby the gov as they are Part of the fossil fuel industry?
So, we have a battle between Donald and fossil fuel in terms of responsibility for Covid-19, hewes62. Both of course incorrect.
Just goes to show how such situations are weaponised to utilise without foundation, distastefully, and totally irresponsibly.
Social distancing between 7 billion plus people is far more difficult than between a much lower figure, even when not actually “controlled”. So, pandemics spread through social contact much easier when that distance is much less. Hence the largest problems in the densest population areas eg. London and New York, and the reason why enforced social distancing is required.
Not to be confused with areas of the world where the population is distant but dense, both at the same time!
Good job you know what you are on about, hewes62!
The real solution for the control of future pandemics is to be prepared to lock down sources quicker in respect of social contact with the rest of the world. Which, requires all parts of the world to be open and co-operate, just like the approach for climate change. Not happening, is it? Much easier to avoid that and revert to fiction.
We really have problems now, Paul. It seems olive oil supplies about to be decimated across Europe! (Although even bigger than 1 in 10.)
Suppose we can always replace with red diesel. Seems reasonable and intelligent? No, not to me either.
The good news is that hewes62 knows what he is talking, or posting, about, and is pretty much a quality over quantity sort of person. And avoids the siren calls to be amongst the angry, excited or panicking bunnies. You should trademark that package, hewes62! Seems that is the thing to do.
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Martin
Thanks. Yes, lots of weaponising positions and somewhat polarising.
One thing for sure is that we will be prepared for the next pandemic of virus type whatever.
The main changes well be economic, but no one really knows how it will pan out, but a fair few have an opinion.
Re the climate emergancy when i broach this subject you would think i had just stepped off the bus from the planet zog! Its not a visible subject
As an aside, on the today programme the presenter is trying to get his head round the fact that the NHS is not overwhelmed ( people staying at home and having a heart attack rather than call 999). Heavens.
hewes62
The NHS is rather good at being able to avoid being overwhelmed. It may come with some cutting of red tape and it may be less than 100% efficient initially, so the media can have a field day whilst fine tuning is then applied. (Maybe the media always has such spare capacity they never have an issue? Wonder if that might be looked into?) Unfortunately, once the current issue is over I expect a swing back to it being less efficient, as that is how calls for increased funding is usually supported. Consultants need their time on the golf course! (Funny how that huge part of the NHS is ignored when “privatisation” is part of a rantathon! Get rid of private medicine and, as a consequence, consultants, who get a major part of their income that way, and hey presto some imaginary persons will step forward to apply their experience to younger and less experienced surgeons/doctors. LOL)
Wifey was classified as one of the 1.5m extremely vulnerable pretty quickly. Gov.UK very quick to get food supplies organised, Supermarkets not quite so quick. Now, the GP and the Consultants are debating whether she should stay on the list. (In practice, now we are organised on-line, it would make very little difference.) To me, that is all pretty reasonable, and better than trying for 100% accuracy before doing anything, but it seems some expect perfect from day one. And others, just want to add fake news into the mix, unable to resist the opportunity.
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Phil C
Thanks. I noted that the excerpt you included in your reply referred to gov lobbying hence my question which you have answered. Which was no.
I would note that your excerpt said, inter alia that…
”They employed a massive disinformation campaign and lobbying campaign in governments’
So the question remains. Have you any examples of fossil fuel propaganda ( being the disinformation campaign ) that has been communicated to the world population and entrapped them ( rather than governments ).
You say this is the case, so I guess you have some examples handy.
An example from the coal industry would be good.
Being now 65 I cannot remember being exposed to or entrapped by any fossil fuel disinformation campaign, and neither can the family et al.
Was it something on television ( an advert ), or in the newspapers? How was it communicated to those without access to televisions?
Maybe others posting on here have some examples of the disinformation campaign which entrapped the world population ( not just governments and the fraction of the world’s population who read the Exxon publication ).
Dear me, What do we have here ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls? What a display of obsessive hewesabuse!! Is he off on one of his fossil fuel industry PR jihads again? I must have touched an entire bucket of raw nerves for such a raving obsession and word fixation abuse to be illustrated so plainly as you do?
but it is nothing more than the usual word association football games, fabricated irrelevances, misrepresentations of anything i dare to say that seems to upset you so much, and just plain wrong assumptions.
So no, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, i’m not playing your word association football games, yet again. If he is too lazy to DHOR then i am certainly not going to be influenced by anything so clearly obsessive and fixated.
But Hey! If hewesabuse is really determined to make a fool of himself with these odd displays of obvious obsessional fixations of anything i say. Then he can go ahead and make a fool of himself.
Shame.
End of conversation AGAIN!
Phil C
Thanks. How is the search for an example propaganda piece from the coal industry that has reached the world population getting on?
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No Paul Tresto, i suggest you look back at earlier posts where you very clearly demanded evidence on some point or other, and i pointed out that you were demanding information that i had already posted earlier and i asked you that you could have always done your own research yourself.
and no, of course you are wrong again, i clearly have always provided relevant and informed links when ever i decide it is necessary, but i will not do so if it is demanded due to laziness and unwillingness to acknowledge the truth. But there again i often see the phrase used by the anti antis, “i am not aware of any evidence to the contrary”. That is a favourite get out of jail free phrase, because what it actually says, is that the person has not looked at the contrary evidence at all. Not that it does not exist.
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How & Why Big Oil Conquered The World
https://www.corbettreport.com/bigoil/
The reports are both supplied with the transcripts for hewesabuse to trawl through looking for isolated words to blow up out of all proportion and to construct entire fictional novels from.
There are also all the DRILLED podcasts, now in the fourth series. There are also the HEATED reports and podcasts, and if that is not enough there are many websites such as Desmog UK and Unearthed (Greenpeace) reports that i often post. i have posted links to all those previously, however the abysmal self censorship seems to have allowed those standard issue fossil fuel total black out blinkers to exclude anything but sychophancy towards the fossil fuel industry and excludes anything which dares to contradict that.
Shame!
No change there is there.
I hope social distancing and self isolation is not causing you too many problems, and i wish your friends and family the best of health and flexibility in safety terms. But not the Coronavirus Act regulations themselves of course.
Have a nice day,
Phil C
Corbett does not address your assertion that the world population has been entrapped by fossil fuel propaganda.
Nor does link to the prolific corbett constitute proof af your assertion.
I still wait for an example of the propaganda you refer to, and how it got to the world population.
A peer reviewed papet would be good but a u tube excitement piece by the Corbett dows not cut the mustard.
For the interested reader here is another example of the ‘hair on fire’ journalism. The trouble is there is some good points in there somewhere, but it is a bit like referring to the Beano as a source of facts having borrowed a quote from it.
https://www.corbettreport.com/announcing-the-3rd-annual-real-fake-news-awards/
heavens. spelling!
Phil C
I remember another of your favourite authors had a thing about false flag events.
Are you drawn to such sources of information?
https://www.corbettreport.com/the-douma-hoax-anatomy-of-a-false-flag/
Ahh, so now we see hewesabuse has descended into desperate false flag illusions, next it will the usual fake news and conspiracy theory accusations.
Just as Percy Bysshe Shelley’s “Ozymandias” poems are only too evident and as feet of clay is now perceived to be the fatal flaw of the enormous top heavy statuary of self aggrandisement, empty accusations, false illusions and dismal misrepresentations. And as we can now see, that always renders the unstable feet of clay edifice as it falls catastrophically back down to the ground with a loud thud!
Your Majesty looked, and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance.
The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. (Daniel 2:31-33)
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Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay.
As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.
Thanks for that lesson—it will teach
To after-warriors more
Than high Philosophy can preach,
And vainly preach’d before.
That spell upon the minds of men
Breaks never to unite again,
That led them to adore
Those Pagod things of sabre sway,
With fronts of brass, and feet of clay.
Sad but now revealed all that bluster and deeply flawed edifices are falling back down to the lowest common denominator.
What a mess.
Twas Ever Thus, Twill Ever Be So…..
PS since the entire edifice is now so clearly revealed to be nothing but empty bluster and fake news.
This is the End of the conversation. There will be no such wastes of time, as i recall i have said several times before?
Thats it, im off to do some far more necessary services for the nieghbours and those who are house bound and need medical or food supplies.
and that alone puts all that fake news and obsessive fixations on Drill or Drop in their correct perspective. Irrelevant empty fatuous noise and wastes of time and page space.
End of conversation
Byeee!
Phil C
Thanks
Have you any peer reviewed papers or such that support your assertions?
In particular the coal industry ( did they put any papers out saying Climate change would not happen…say 30 years ago ).
So if you agree to apologise for all the long winded mistakes and accusations you made about what i said in the above and the previous two pages before hewes62. Then i will apologise for that one paragraph and all my long winded accusations i made about your comments in response.
Agreed?