Opponents of oil production at Biscathorpe in the Lincolnshire Wolds have submitted legal papers in their court challenge against the decision of a planning inspector.
SOS Biscathorpe is seeking to overturn the ruling of Paul Thompson, who granted planning permission last month for 15 years of oil extraction and a new well in the area of outstanding natural beauty.
The planning inspector accepted that plans by Egdon Resources failed to comply with some planning policies and would have “an adverse effect” on the landscape and scenic beauty of the AONB. He also acknowledged that the amount of oil that could be extracted was very small and could be exported.
But Mr Thompson said national need for oil was in the public interest and enough to justify the proposal in the protected area.
Earlier this month, SOS Biscathorpe said the planning inspector’s decision was wrong and should be challenged.
The group’s legal case will be deemed to have been served tomorrow (Tuesday 19 December 2023).
Egdon Resources and Lincolnshire County Council then have 21 days to respond.
The legal challenge is the latest stage in an eight-year campaign against Egdon Resources at Biscathorpe.
Lincolnshire County Council’s planning committee refused planning permission for oil production and the extra well on the opening day of the Glasgow climate talks in November 2021.
Egdon later appealed and made its case to Mr Thompson at a hearing almost a year later.
The legal challenge to the inspector’s ruling is brought by environmental campaigner, Mathilda Dennis. She said:
“SOS Biscathorpe is fighting on behalf of every community up and down the UK that wants to protect its natural environment for the long term health of the planet and its people.”
Ms Dennis is represented by Leigh Day. Her solicitor, Julia Eriksen, said:
“Our client is steadfastly continuing her long battle of fighting oil development in Lincolnshire Wolds AONB and have instructed us to prepare a claim for statutory review.
“The Inspector acknowledged that the development would cause harm to the AONB however allowed the appeal regardless.
“This case will also argue that the Inspectors’ approach to the legal requirements for assessing downstream greenhouse gas emissions, which is relevant to many other fossil fuel developments, was flawed.”
SOS Biscathorpe needs to raise £20,000 to bring the case. So far, it has raised more than £5,225 from 120 donations. Link to fundraising website
DRILL OR DROP? 
Good luck with that!
Common sense knows that downstream, upstream and sideways streams of emissions from imported oil are much greater than from locally produced oil, otherwise farm shops in Lincolnshire would have a hard job attracting customers. (I have my locally reared pork chop awaiting me later today, fed locally produced grain to bring it to my table, with the locally produced grain produced with the aid of artificial fertilizer and red diesel. Lot of that happening in Lincolnshire, also.)
Then there is the little matter of the Suez canal and the issues around that. UK service people already risking their lives to protect imported oil transportation.
Oil may be exported? Maybe, maybe not-if it is then it will support the value of UK currency and that will help anyone with cost of living as imported things will be less expensive, and overseas holidays less expensive.
My long term health will be protected with the help of plastic syringes and artificial rubber, should I need ventilating. It is “natural” for many to leave life around the age of 30 without support, but since the use of fossil fuel most people expect another 60 years or so. Not sure that 30 is long term.
Goodness, I am not sure who the target audience is but methinks there is some confusion between gaining excited participants and clarity of purpose. Lawyers will be paid anyway. Money for old rope comes to mind. Modern rope would be excluded due to it’s “association” with oil!
And what of the ill health effects to children? What of the ill health effects to middle aged adults? What of the ill heatlth effects to the elderly? Having spent 40 years working in various critical care units globally, I have seen first hand the consequences of onshore oil extraction. It is heart breaking. Other than the very real health impacts, it will destroy a community and stain a beautiful landscape permanently. Do not try to justify your egregious comments about syringes and rubber or rope. Pityful and exceptionally small minded. There is a transition period to be had, that’s for sure but let’s not destroy our countryside and cause major health issues to our children. This is simply about cash. The God. Take a look at flight radar/ flight tracker and the likes. There’s a good place to start, I could live with it.
No David, it is simply about supplying a demand. You are helping to create the demand but wish others over the horizon to supply it.
You pontificate about your experience of global health issues, yet you are supporting the extraction of oil in areas of the world where standards are so much lower than UK.
Like most antis within this debate you have a problem with making an argument that adds up to anything other than Nimbyism with nonsense eg. there will be NO stain upon landscape permanently. These sites have a relatively short life span and then are returned to landscape. A much shorter lifespan than solar farms for instance. There has been a site at Stockbridge in Hampshire for many years. River Test still doing nicely, trout fishing at £1500/day, no reports of ill health in the area and indeed very few local residents even aware of the site. Hospital in Winchester is scheduled for a rebuild. In that respect it is all about money David-imported oil will produce no UK taxation to rebuild that hospital. Are you going to crowd fund it? Nope, didn’t think so.
Yes, I have spent time in a chemotherapy unit, David. I noted how much product they relied upon from the oil industry. There was an absence of leaches thankfully, and they were doing a grand job at helping to maintain the sort of life expectancy that oddly was not the norm before oil and gas were widely utilized. If you look around Biscathorpe you may note how that countryside is shaped from the use of much oil and gas product currently-that which you want to preserve!
Of course my posts are unhelpful to your cause. I don’t agree with it, David. You can get as excited as you like about such things as shareholder interest, even when it is pretty limited in this particular case and certainly doesn’t include myself,but it may be better if you concentrated upon accuracy in your own posts.
Apologies for the late reply, I have only just read your response.
Again, laced with sarcastic, judgemental, imperious claptrap.
Supply the demand? Obviously, you did not understand the point re flight tracker. That is what will have to reduce/change significantly. Demand will change when the supply is altered. Transition, transition, transition.
I will continue to pontificate on the health effects of oil drilling. I work in these areas. I have seen the facts. It is unambiguous. In your case. it seems a matter of head and sand.
Just another judgement when you accuse me of nimbyism {no capital required}. I live 230 miles from the Biscathorpe yet understand their real worries, concerns and potential effects the drilling will have on their community. To destroy a chalk river and surrounding ecosystem for 15 years WILL have an effect. Some of these effect will be permanent and others lasting decades. So please, enough with your angry, so wide of the mark judgements. My whole arguement is based on factual information, whereby, like most pros, you overflow with bitter persuasive rhetoric. Thinking about it, what is wrong with fighting against something that will so badly damage your area and community??? No brainer!
Re the chemotherapy comment. Really? You make it sound that we will never survive a single day without oil drilling. Not too sure what you mean about the leaches comment, I suspect it is in bad taste. Wow.
I really can’t believe how weak your arguement is. Biscathorpe is shaped for the use of oil? What on earth are you trying to say?
I do think you are missing my point completely. There is a need to have a transitionary period from fossil fuels. We simply cannot abruptly stop using oil, we have gone too far down the line. These debates re drilling were happening 40 years ago but very little was done about it. Money, money, money. Had we acted sooner in a slightly more intelligent and insightful manner, we would be much closer to a solution. Panic drilling in the area discussed, for such little yield is completely unacceptable. We need to stop it now from destroying the countryside and causing ill health to all age groups. The countryside does not return to what is was like before drilling, it is simply covered up. So perhaps Mr Martin Collyer, you should focus on not just the accuracy of your posts but how to converse in a way that is not so condescending and patronizing.
Well, there you go again, David, keeping the demand going by posting on the Internet thanks to the provision of fossil fuel. I do so but claim no malice or bile towards fossil fuel. You obviously are guilty creating the extra demand yourself, I am not. You are one unable to do without.
Money, money, money. What a poor attempt. It is not the directors of the companies involved at Biscathorpe who had to repay $700m they had overpaid themselves, but the directors of ermm….. Tesla!! The alternatives already have a very poor record of taking a lot of gravy off the train, David, so may be wise to avoid that one.
Rather than the excitement David, you could do better by reading what you are replying to, rather than change my text and then announcing you don’t know what I am trying to say. It just shows you have little awareness of the countryside around Biscathorpe, whereas I do. Additionally, there will be no chalk stream destroyed, the R.Test has not been destroyed due to oil drilling near Stockbridge. The R.Itchen was nearly destroyed, or at least contaminated, from the washing of salads! Does that mean UK should stop salad production and import more from over the horizon?
There is more outrage in that area of the world with countryside being covered in solar farms-not far from the Stockbridge oil site, and much larger areas.
I liked the bit about acting sooner. Trouble is David, when it comes down to it that becomes “something must be done”. I agree with that but how about being honest about the something and the costs of it? The something that should be done FIRST was to maximize the use of local production during transition, for anyone who looks at overseas production of fossil fuel, maritime transport and remembers the Torrey Canyon. Even without consideration of what the exporters of fossil fuel to UK were doing with the revenue they received or what they were doing to their local environment. Then you have to remember the “something must be done” is NOT funded by “somebody else will pay”. Sorry, but they are nonsense concepts produced on your side of the fence which are so easily exposed one would wonder why there are not better threads. Chemotherapy, to my mind, was not the better thread. It was distasteful for anyone who has direct or indirect experience of cancer-which just about includes everyone in UK.
There are no reports that support ill health in proximity to UK on shore oil fields that are directly linked. Trouble is within your excitement you may just have PROMOTED that if oil is to be used it should come from UK on shore sites, David! I did notice a report from the USA that was supposed to be scientific and actually referred to greater sexual activity amongst humans near to some of their sites. My common sense would point to that being increased income being spent on alcohol and then the consequences, but I suppose I could weaponize it for the good folk of Lincolnshire.
I will engage within anyone who puts forward accurate information in a way that reflects reality. For those who wish to try and scaremonger based upon inaccuracy then I still engage, but excuse me for not giving their comments such support. With yourself trying to claim awareness of chemotherapy yet apparently unaware of the huge use of fossil fuel within the medical profession, that maintains a high life expectancy now in most parts of the world, it appears to me some pretty myopic lenses being used. Please also enlighten me as to how the 10B human population that will be on this planet soon will be fed without intensive food production-the “sustainable” food production will not do the job. The first is predominant in Lincolnshire, thanks to considerable utilization of fossil fuel. How do you think artificial fertilizer is produced?
Happy Christmas. (For sake of some more accuracy, I am Happy and have not been angry as long as I can remember. I leave that to those who wish to “demonstrate” angrily, often it would seem having taken note of various sources to make them angry.)
Sounds like you’re trying to scaremonger in the UK from experiences you’ve had elsewhere ? We don’t have much onshore oil extraction, our biggest is Wytch Farm in Dorset and we don’t have any reports of local ill health caused by it. We also have people living on offshore drilling rigs for weeks at a time with no negative effects.
Scaremonger is the polite term, Graeme. I, unfortunately, do have experience of chemotherapy facilities in the UK. My experience, from Professors down, was a standard thread of “we don’t know why you have cancer and others don’t”. I certainly NEVER came across someone such as David suggesting they had the answer to that.
I also have experience of explaining to customers why my company was removing cobalt from products as soon as it was declared a carcinogen, as it would be impossible to defend if and when “Bob” who had smoked 20 a day for his adult life contracted cancer 10 years after retirement and remembered the skull and cross bone signs on packaging. The insurance companies stated quite clearly one couldn’t disprove a cause for cancer, or a cause so interesting to see how it is still weaponized by some claiming they are able to do so. I have to admit I did rely upon those in chemo. getting their arithmetic correct, but it seems I should have been more skeptical about that.
I do know I have a close relative and what he will have on his death certificate within his lungs from his time keeping sea lanes open when he was in the Royal Navy. Hopefully, no longer in use, but I fear more in the Royal Navy may have death certificates yet from protecting sea lanes to carry materials that might have less need if produced locally. Bit ironic really they may be doing that and undersea connectors may be left somewhat vulnerable as the UK fails to generate enough taxation to even keep existing Royal Navy ships at sea, as UK industry has been exported over the horizon and pays tax there.
One can but hope the locals around this potential site have avoided purchasing products containing cobalt in a “drive” to a healthier world! If they haven’t avoided that, they may also have found out something about vehicle insurance costs, and may welcome some return on investments to pay it. Meanwhile, they could fantasize about when/if Tesla will pay a dividend, although I do suspect there is actually more concern in this neck of the woods from land owners having their red diesel nicked so some can reduce their costs of travel! (Sorry Jack, remembering your previous, there will not be too many locals concerned about how many worms the pigeons are eating either-not unless they have migrated to a rural life without knowing what goes on around them.)
Mr Martin Collyer. You simply believ that the only ill health effects of close proximity oil drilling in a rural area is cancer? It would take more space than this comment section to bestow on you the cardiovascular, respiratory, genetic and neurological issues. Talk about ill informed. Go read the reseach! Lots and lots of repetition. Final sign off! Thankyou moderator.
Hello Graeme. Appreciate the comment.
I will keep the post short.
If scaremongering is how it seems to you, then I did not intend this. I have spent many years working in areas of Canada, USA and Norway, very developed countries. Mostly, their standard of ill health prevention is excellent but the statistics speak for themselves. The ill health risks are high, not matter what. Many studies have been performed and very particulary, the unborn child will suffer the consequences. It is not always an immediate deterioration in health but it can be. The studies also suggest that the risk increase in rural areas. Have a good Christmas.
Strangely, my time in Norway found no rural on shore oil wells, so whatever statistics available they don’t appear to have anything to do with rural Lincolnshire.
I did come across some statistics for the Norwegian Wealth Fund and what problems they had with spending it, even after producing a superb health service. (They had the money to spend on high speed rail, but last time I discussed it with my friends over there they were talking about the dangers of their wild life derailing that!)
I have yet to come across any indications of elevated ill health around UK on shore oil sites. I have certainly come across indications of ill health around rapeseed production and other agricultural production in Lincolnshire.
There were rumours during the construction of the Newbury bypass that rare snails had been discovered, subsequently found to be common as muck in Lincolnshire. The bypass is now built and strangely-again-people have found out that traffic moving freely produces far lower levels of local pollution than traffic that is caught in constant traffic jams.
I have noted very considerable ill health, and death, statistics from electricity distribution in USA causing forest fires, not only directly but through the particulates produced. (Although the US cancer survival rates are somewhat better than UK.) I did come across some “data” about methane leakage from one UK oil site, which then was corrected to a really much lower actual level, and still the chemistry teachers set light to the rocks on the local beach to amaze their students, and still the cows ruminate around the site, and still the skin divers report the gas bubbling to the surface in the bay, yet the Black Bream thrive. Still the forest fires occur locally-usually from tourists deciding portable Bar-B-Qs are a good idea. Then, the methane produced from rice production still appears to be happening over the horizon yet the Chinese and Indian restaurants thrive in UK.
Not sure I would seriously suggest that electricity distribution in UK would produce such results as seen in USA. That might be thought to be scaremongering, especially over in the eastern part of UK where there are going to be far more electricity pylons. Don’t get me started on ill health from nuclear power plants, for when the wind doesn’t blow and the sun doesn’t shine.
Oddly enough most of Kuwait sits on top of the second largest oilfield in the world yet their life expectancy doesn’t seem to have suffered much.
P.S:
I trust a happy Christmas is enjoyed by all. For those awaiting their pressies from deliveries by Nikola trucks I fear you may be disappointed-unless you live at the bottom of a hill. (Truck in motion film, to show it worked, was actually footage of it rolling down a hill!) $1m fine and four years in prison for that Santa.
So much dosh being wasted, another £20k should be no problem. Meanwhile, farmers in Lincolnshire will enjoy grain having a market for their wheat to be plonked into fuel tanks, and the consumer will pay more for their food as wheat supply will have another demand, pushing up prices.
This “natural environment” appears to be rather divorced from reality, as previous agricultural land also gets covered in solar farms. Strange thing this natural environment. Remember Swampy and Newbury by-pass? Well, more trees there than before, residents of Newbury not having to wash net curtains after every Bank Holiday, and Red Kites have now followed their roadkill supply down the A34 and are happily soaring over the South Downs.
Happy Christmas!
MARTIN
YET in Manchester , the residents are ” celebrating ” the arrival of the NEW fleet of zero emission buses ..
WELL DONE Manchester Council….. The cleaner air will be enjoyed by ALL the residents.
https://www.intelligenttransport.com/transport-news/147111/greater-manchester-first-zero-emission-bee-network-buses/
MARTIN , are you happy that Manchester residents will have improved health ?????
A note to all parents and parents to be, of kids within the 1.2 miles of Biscathorpe oil drilling…….leave! The health issues are well documented and very public. Oh yeah, this advise also applies to adults, particularly the elderly. What a disaster. They are the facts. I have seen the consequences and short-sightedness of such greed for almost 40 years from a health perspective, globally. It is deeply unpleasant and irreversible. I have donated to the Go Fund Me and will continue to shout out for SOS Biscathorpe. Perhaps Mr Martin Collyer, you would like to spend a bit of time in a Critical Care Unit or a Chemotherapy department? Witness first hand the very real consequences of onshore oil drilling, particularly in a very rural area. The unborn, young, immunocompromised and elderly are particularly at risk, not to mention the destruction of communities, wildlife and welfare. Your highly sarcastic, inaccurate and egregious posts are unhelpful Mr Martin Collyer. Take a long think before typing such “stuff” Mr Matin Collyer. This is about drilling for very little gain in a so called “protected area.” Shareholders are rubbing their hands…………………….wake up people! Or as Union Jack Oil hinted, all your waiting will soon be rewarded!
Hi Jack, let’s hope Manchester have made the right decision. The buses will be nice and quiet with low emissions, but will they be cost effective ? Manchester council will hopefully let us know in due course if it was a pointer towards the future, which every city should be following, or a virtue-signalling disaster for the local tax payers. The jury is out.
Current areas of concern for electric buses apparently include :
Too expensive
Lack of operational savings
Need to deploy larger number of buses to do the same work as other technologies
Climate control and extremely cold weather will weaken the performance of electric buses
Terrain may pose a challenge to the adoption of electric vehicles(ie they don’t like hills in the winter) that carry stored energy compared to trolleybuses
It doesn’t help that our electricity is twice the price of France’s and five times the price of the USA’s. Perhaps that’s what we should be tackling first ?
Hmm, Jack, I do wonder whether Councils make the right decisions-before they go bust. City dwellers having better health due to buses? Well, wasn’t it the same Labour lot a few years ago telling everyone to buy diesel cars-that ended up with people doing so and helping German car manufacturers who stated their diesels were clean, when they were not and supported Russian diesel suppliers that helped fund a war in Europe? They are needing to correct what they have caused before they make progress. Perhaps Manchester will get one of those “free” nuclear power stations that the French are “reported” to be supplying, that the same lot ignored?
Then there was Lordstown Motors, or here in UK Arrival that cut 1 in 4 jobs in October. Then there was Siemans Energy that had to cut many jobs when they discovered their product kept breaking.
Tell you what Jack, there have been golf buggies and milk carts available for many years that would get you around city streets, powered by electricity. Other countries have been successful in introducing hydrogen for transport, whilst in UK the concern is more about what colour it is than getting it going.
Will Manchester residents have better health? Maybe not if the money is not also spent on that large user of oil and gas-the NHS, plus subsidies to keep jobs in UK that would otherwise be taken over the horizon to where energy prices are much cheaper, whilst you pontificate about mythical global energy prices. Health probably a lot better than before oil and gas were used extensively, when coal produced smog across most major UK cities. Certainly a lot better than the health of the children mining cobalt in the DRC, Jack.
Good to see Jack you are continuing to drive the demand for oil, and resisting the “transitioning”. Good to see Sir Jim is going to invest a lot of his ill gotten gains to have somewhere for the buses to go and the residents to enjoy in Manchester, eh Jack? Shame that according to your previous posts that membership of an organization dictates agreement with management decisions that so many will now be supporting Sir Jim to bring fracking to the UK!
Happy Christmas. May your chestnuts be roasted-if the wind doth blow. Give my regards to Tiny Tim, Jack, and let him know his turkey may be out of reach as the wheat to rear it was diverted into fuel. There is always gruel-until the oats get diverted to some “green” use.
My locally reared pork chop was great, by the way, and I feel so much better not buying a part of a pig from somewhere where I have no knowledge of what they did to that pig.
MARTIN , It’s a simple choice and it’s for the public to decide .
They can choose to either
( A ) Continue to fll their lungs with an array of CANCEROGENIC toxic gases and Diesel soot
OR
( B ) They can back what inner city councils like Manchester are doing and embrace the opportunity to breath in some cleaner air by removing high polluting vehicles like buses off the road and replacing them with zero emission vehicles..
Well, Jack, I fear you have a misconception regarding what Councils decide and how that aligns with what the public want. When the public have a say in the matter they can make their own decisions-as they did recently in Uxbridge!
If I speak to any locals in my own area, Jack, about my local Council, as I did yesterday I struggle to find anyone who actually thinks the Council has any idea of how to run a bath, let alone a budget with £millions to spend. I have made my views known previously about the risk of Councils being able to control pension investments. If some are happy with that then they need to accept the consequences, others not happy to do that really should make their own provision.
Once again you help to show what I posted earlier. You may represent a certain target audience, but you post for yourself, and are rarely supported by anyone even on this site, let alone in the wider world. To add to that, the longer you continue with your “threads” the more likelihood is that you end up contradicting your own posts!
Hydrogen powered buses are standard in parts of the world. It really is not that difficult to get them into UK. However, if UK oil and gas companies are taxed away from UK they tend to spend their dosh on investing over the horizon rather than in UK-see recent announcement from the N.Sea’s largest operator. Perhaps if there were more of them, they could be taxed less and invest in such projects? Perhaps, if less had been fooled into installing wood burners in their city homes, the task would not be such a challenge?
Can only hope the Manchester buses are not like the revised Nikola trucks. 209 built and sold, then guess how many recalled when they were found to be a fire risk? Yep, 209!! A gravy train that can coast down a hill, and when made to run on the flat may combust. Looks an “exciting” proposition, but maybe not in the way the public would expect.
P.S. Jack:
1.13am!!! Come on now, if you are awake when Santa comes he will leave no pressies. Probably won’t anyway, for the bad boys and girls who consume energy and avoid the alternative free stuff called daylight that has been provided with Zero emissions.
MARTIN ,
I take note and will concede the point on my late night , online activities under a 5 watt LED table lamp ( after all it is Christmas ) …… Although only very low energy consumption , it is indeed not Neutral Zero.
Sadly , I wasn’t able to stay awake all night to catch Santa , seem to miss the guy every year..
MARTIN , I hope he brought you the BEST gift of all ….. Some share certificates in a ” Green Energy company ” Take JACKS advice , keep hold of them for a bit , I know you’ll make a killing on them later next year .
Best wishes to you my online adversary , it’s been an interesting and most enjoyable year.
Good health and prosperity to you. ( invest green )
You mean like Tesla, Jack? The company that can OVERPAY their directors by $700m but fail to pay income to their shareholders, whilst the share price goes up and down-usually down-like the proverbial drawers every time Musk makes an unfortunate gaff, then to be sued by shareholders? Think I shall give that a miss. A few are making a lot of money, but not the shareholders. If I wanted to make some money, I would invest in the insurance companies looking at their rates they charge for insuring EVs!
Perhaps you were referencing Siemans Energy where the share holders can see the value of their investment drop by £BILLIONS in a day, when they announce their product is continuing to fail yet they are unable to get a handle on how much more failure is in the pipeline? Then, requiring a multi £billion bailout, even after masses of REDUNDANCIES.
Then, what was the name of that outfit which was supposed to be producing all those jobs making batteries, but couldn’t obtain customers? To be “rescued” and then the “rescuer” looking like the fire after the fat?
I could produce MORE than a Dirty Dozen, Jack, but it is Christmas time.
(Perhaps there are too many wind turbines around you Jack, and Rudolf can’t get to you without being minced?)
Nope, I should have invested in Chesapeake Energy Jack! Remember that one? I could also look into flying thousands of people around the world for “green” jollies. Must be an income opportunity there, Jack.
Looking at the great news about the grape harvest for UK this year Jack, and the recent expansion in vineyards in UK, and the forecasts for future weather patterns, maybe not a bad idea for a penny or two in that direction?
It would only be a penny or two as every UK household is forecast (Civitas) to having £6K/year taken from them to fund Net Zero through to 2050. Strange how Mrs. May didn’t let us know that when she signed it into law. She didn’t even try the French will pay for it con.
Happy Christmas. Do indulge in some nice quality English wines and consider the pros instead of the cons. After all Jack, you are a great advocate for imports so I am sure you could get hold of some! Enjoy them whilst they last-there are a lot of those scientist persons who state there will be another ice age around the corner.
Must get on with life, Jack. Just noticed my dustmen are in the road and I got up early to make sure I handed them their Christmas gift.
YES MARTIN ,
Now you cone to mention it , TESLA would of been a FANTASTIC INVESTMENT.
May 2019 the share was 12.34 USD
TODAY each share is worth a staggering 262.74 USD
YES MARTIN a small investment in TESLA would of made you RICH by now …
No, it wouldn’t Jack. I am just surprised you feel there is a target audience on DoD for such, or that you risk other people’s money so readily. Do you really live in a capitalist country or if you do, do you ever get out? (See my explanation below, explaining what is pretty basic stuff.)
Oh, I just noticed the latest “green” investment opportunity, Jack. GNR from Elements Green. Hmmm, is that an oxymoron? Proposal for 7000 acres of productive agricultural land to be covered in glass in Nottinghamshire.
“Monstrous” and “shell shocked” comments from the locals.
So, good people of Biscathorpe, be careful what you wish for! You may actually get it. As has been stated, “money, money, money”. I would suspect there will be a crowd fund available to contribute to protest against GNR, I suspect there is already one against Sizewell C. If there are those who have something left over after the £6k/year has been nicked, well done them but I do note a lot of charities already bemoaning the state of their finances so somewhere that old arithmetic seems to be a bit screwed up.
Just perhaps one solution would be for UK to produce more of what it can and import less, so that UK currency is stronger and business taxation is increased, leaving the individual to have less taxation foisted upon them and able to crowd fund or give to charity without restriction?
Sorry to give you more bad news Jack but your activities against the US oil industry seem to have achieved the opposite, with it reported US is on track to produce more oil than any other country in history. Yet Mr. Kerry will still swan around the world and sell his books.
“Money, money, money”. So many gravy trains to chose from. Reminds me of the very good scientist who informed me some years ago that a climate change “benefit” needed to be argued within a proposal to obtain a £150k research grant. As he was very good, he did so and obtained the grant. Is that another “green” investment I should consider Jack?
Happy New Year.
Jack, to help you enter 2024 with some joy, I noted another green investment opportunity, right up your street. Firefly Green Fuels. Apparently they have produced aviation fuel from human faeces! The obvious comment, using David Cameron as a supporting source would just be too easy, even though I could supply a “link” that would obviously (?) make it true.
However, my extra merriment was “fueled” when I flicked through the TV channels to see if there were any good films on today, and straight away came to “Gone with the Wind”!
Mind you, if £6k extra per year per UK household is required to feed the Net Zero beast then aviation fuel may become as needed as Unicorn saddles.
(Version A just re-appeared Jack, so enjoy!)
Jack-there is always Firefly Green Fuels!
I will avoid the very obvious opportunity, but it should appeal to you. (I did type a longer version but it disappeared. Probably as well.)
Again I repeat , a missed TESLA opportunity for you MARTIN ,
TESLA share price
MAY 2019 the share price was 12.34 USD
TODAY each share is worth a staggering 262.74 USD
YES MARTIN , a small investment in TESLA four and a half years ago ,
would of made you RICH by now..
Let’s now have a LOOK at what MARTIN has been trying to encourage you to buy in to .🤣
STAR ENERGY formally known as Fracking wannabe IGAS , after the shares being diluted in to oblivion.
The companies share price has dropped an eye watering 99.91%
YES 99.91%
JULY 2005 the share price was 11,532.83
TODAY the share price is 10.42 PENCE
YES 10.42 PENCE .
Don’t think many people will be taking any investment advice from you old chap / old lady or whoever you REALLY are MARTIN .
Same nonsense Jack, even with 2024 approaching. No wonder you didn’t see Santa. Tesla is no different to Star Energy, in that the only way to make money is to trade either of the shares. So, when shares are traded, Jack, they are sold and the shareholder gets some money but does not retain their shares. With both companies there have been opportunities to trade shares and make money. In one case one could have made more money, but also lost a great deal more-which many did. Some got so miffed they even sued. It just depends at what price the investor bought and at what price they sold and whilst you “conveniently” missed the fluctuation in Tesla share price, the markets did record it showing a great opportunity to lose a great deal of money-and it was not with IGAS/Star.
If you wish to advocate investing in a company that doesn’t support it’s employees to have the support of a Union, that is up to you Jack, but hardly produces an image of someone wishing to protect anyone.
Jack, if you have issues getting past a basic starting point of investing, do keep away from investing. Your bitterness at missing that Chesapeake Energy opportunity seems to have clouded your judgement even further.
You make your point even more flawed Jack, when you suggest I have EVER suggested to anyone they should have invested in IGAS or then Star. Not a new development for you to have to defend a flawed position with fake news Jack, (compounding an error is the term, Jack) but reality is really not that awful and you will find that most readers are aware of the real world. You are a slight improvement over someone who in the past suggested I was an INEOS investor, but not much!
Nope, I am not being angry, just correcting “inaccurate” assertions. Maybe one year will see accuracy return? Progress of Internet information to replace that which used to come from Encyclopedias was the proposition, the reality is misinformation opportunity-or as you put it earlier in 2023 Jack, the opportunity for propaganda. Not Martin, but Jack. Maybe you should remember I can still remember, and the long term memory usually persists the longest.
Chill out Jack. Get hold of some of our English wines, and after this years harvest you should be able to get a half full glass.
MARTIN 🤣
TESLA is no different to STAR ENERGY (formally known as IGAS ) you say 🤣
Only if your looking at it in ” spectacular ” share movements.
TESLA have had a “spectacular ” climb upwards 19,678.69 % UPWARDS
STAR ENERGY ( IGAS ) have had a “spectacular” fall of 99.91 % DOWNWARDS.
Yes , I suppose your right MARTIN , both are the same if your looking at it from the EPIC share movements.